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    Gove and Johnson are perky and full of fake bonhomie and enthusiasm for the brilliant job May is doing.

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      On Euratom-related (nuclear specific) issues both Parties have agreed principles for addressing the key separation issues relating to the UK’s withdrawal from Euratom. This includes agreement that the UK will be responsible for international nuclear safeguards in the UK and is committed to a future regime that provides coverage and effectiveness equivalent to existing Euratom arrangements. Both sides have also agreed the principles of ownership for special fissile material (save for material held in the UK by EU27 entities) and responsibility for spent fuel and radioactive waste
      Sounds like no dispensation on Euratom, but I may be misreading it.

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        I think the first law the EU parliament should pass after the the UK leaves the EU (while leaving but staying in the customs union) is to regulate the shape of bananas. Also, chocolate with low levels of cocoa should indeed be renamed "vegelate".
        Last edited by anton pulisov; 08-12-2017, 12:05.

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          Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
          Gove and Johnson are perky and full of fake bonhomie and enthusiasm for the brilliant job May is doing.
          Considering that as Remainers who voted for Leave in order to take a shot at being PM, it gets them out of the shit.

          Boris is still doing the taking back control bollocks when the official White Paper said we had sovereignty 14 months ago. And he still isn't being called on it.

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            So, "don't interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake"?

            Is this deal a mistake? Labour's going to have to support it.

            Maybe they should have fronted up with the public all along and told them what would happen?

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              Juncker:

              “Today's result is, of course, a compromise. It is the result of a long and intense discussion between the Commission negotiators and those of the UK.

              "As in any negotiation, both sides have to listen to each other, adjust their position and show a willingness to compromise. This was a difficult negotiation for the European Union as well as for the United Kingdom,” admitted the Commission President.
              A good example being set here for all the kids watching at home on TV: always be magnanimous in victory.

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                Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View Post
                So, "don't interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake"?
                So, who bought today's i then?

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                  Not me.

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                    From the Guardian.

                    Meanwhile a Labour MP tells me: “Now is the moment for the Labour party to definitively say that we are for a soft Brexit and for staying in the customs union. Theresa May has conceded the principle of regulatory alignment - rather than spend months wasting time to say what we want- lets just say it now.”
                    This would be a good idea.

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                      Now is the time for Labour to point out that soft Brexit is the same as being in the EU, but with no seat at the table in Brussels.

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                        Yeah but referendum. Shit's not hit the fan fast enough to override that.

                        Furious spin of how great EFTA is needed. "Like the EU without political union" or something. "And fishermen".

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                          Originally posted by Gangster Octopus View Post
                          So, who bought today's i then?
                          Just the sports page so far- Jonny Evans in want away plea, Craig Overton fancies another go, FIFA cash crisis

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                            Originally posted by Snake Plissken View Post
                            Considering that as Remainers who voted for Leave in order to take a shot at being PM, it gets them out of the shit.

                            Boris is still doing the taking back control bollocks when the official White Paper said we had sovereignty 14 months ago. And he still isn't being called on it.
                            On a similar note, in the last Parliament William Hague, in toughie Eurosceptic mode, commissioned a review of "competencies", about what level national/EU powers were better exercised. The review basically backed where the powers are now. We never heard about it again.
                            Last edited by Tubby Isaacs; 08-12-2017, 13:05.

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                              Unionists: "No-one likes us we don't care"

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                                Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
                                Fintan O Toole

                                "The deal secured by Ireland does not necessarily force the UK to stay in the customs union and single market. It just forces it to act as if it has stayed in - a distinction without a difference. Call it what you like - if it acts like a customs union, moves like a customs union and is fully aligned like a customs union, it is a customs union."
                                I enjoyed this tweet by Gavan Reilly: "UK commits to leaving Single Market, but also to maintaining an open border. How? By copying and pasting almost all the rules of the Single Market and taking them as its own. Out of the EU, but destined to copy its rules - Schrödinger's Brexit".

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                                  No Cabinet resignations then. Are the headbangers content with getting May later and moaning into beer?

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                                    Is there any meaningful/informed analysis anywhere of what "which, now or in the future, support North-South cooperation, the all-island economy and the protection of the 1998 Agreement" actually means? What sort of thing wouldn't be covered?

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                                      Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View Post
                                      From the Guardian.



                                      This would be a good idea.
                                      They've already said this, a number of times, or close variants of.

                                      As I said many many pages back, something along these lines was what we were always, always going to get (something similar to what we have now, but at the expense of billions, lots of division and rhetoric, and a whole load of wasted parliamentary time). There's been too much worry and fright all round.

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                                        Meanwhile, the EU-Japan FTA has also been formally ratified today:

                                        https://mobile.twitter.com/JunckerEU...87373798920192

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                                          Originally posted by johnr View Post
                                          They've already said this, a number of times, or close variants of.

                                          As I said many many pages back, something along these lines was what we were always, always going to get (something similar to what we have now, but at the expense of billions, lots of division and rhetoric, and a whole load of wasted parliamentary time). There's been too much worry and fright all round.

                                          Apol, I thought it mentioned the Single Market as well- that hasn't been done. That ought to be done now.

                                          Agree, logic of Labour's announcements has been close to it. But why not say it?

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                                            Newsthump had it pretty much nailed back in July.

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                                              Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                                              Meanwhile, the EU-Japan FTA has also been formally ratified today:

                                              https://mobile.twitter.com/JunckerEU...87373798920192
                                              Global Britain.

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                                                Actually this is good.

                                                Jeremy Corbyn‏Verified account
                                                @jeremycorbyn
                                                Eighteen months on from the referendum, @Theresa_May has scraped through phase one. Tory chaos and posturing has caused damaging delay and risked serious harm to our economy. We need a much stronger and more constructive approach in crucial phase two.
                                                Could have been in a stronger position though.

                                                He could say "has harmed the economy".

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                                                  Still think "Stop this pointless madness, you morons" would have been a better tweet.

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                                                    Originally posted by Toby Gymshorts View Post
                                                    As someone on the James O'Brien show said this morning ..this is what you could have won.

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