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    If there's one thing that 'business' loves, it's more uncertainty.

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      May's Eurotour takes in Dublin:

      http://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1072522882792730626
      Last edited by Diable Rouge; 11-12-2018, 16:17.

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        Talking of triggering Article 50 and planning (lack thereof).

        https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1071480823008894976

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          Ha ha.

          https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1072520557403537408

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            the whole thing was a farce

            https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1072520624617242626

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              The Irish really should know their place
              They do. That's the whole point you vacuous imbecile.

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                Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View Post
                Talking of triggering Article 50 and planning (lack thereof).

                https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1071480823008894976
                Private Eye had fun this week pointing out that the Sun is now lambasting May for triggering Article 50 without a plan, whereas of course back in 2017 it was furiously denouncing anyone who suggested it might not be a good idea to do that.

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                  Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
                  I don't really get what the significance of this is supposed to be. Why does it matter when they first started working on it?

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                    Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View Post
                    If the EU offered an extension, it would definitely change it. But as far as I can see, it's go on with it, or revoke completely. Is the government ever going to tell its base "we're in for another 2 years, minimum"?
                    But isn't it the case that yesterday's decision means that the UK doesn't need to be offered anything, they can just decide to go ahead and revoke/delay? Or did I read it wrong?

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                      Revoking is fine, but I don't know about delaying.

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                        Originally posted by Ginger Yellow View Post
                        I don't really get what the significance of this is supposed to be. Why does it matter when they first started working on it?
                        It's reassuringly like preparation.

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                          Wrong Link, Sorry


                          May informed the EU that they were calling off the vote at least 24 hours before she told her own Cabinet

                          https://twitter.com/AlbertoNardelli/status/1072479706375774209
                          Last edited by Nefertiti2; 11-12-2018, 18:19.

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                            I guess you can revoke then immediately invoke article 50, creating a 2 year postponement. I wasn't sure whether shorter delays were allowed.

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                              There isn’t any jurisprudence on shorter delays, which means that they would have to be agreed by all 28 states, whereas revocation and invocation can be done by a single state acting unilaterally.

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                                Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
                                Wrong Link, Sorry


                                May informed the EU that they were calling off the vote at least 24 hours before she told her own Cabinet

                                https://twitter.com/AlbertoNardelli/status/1072479706375774209
                                That'll please Gove, who she sent out to say the vote was still on.

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                                  Isn't delay covered in A50 itself, meaning there's no need for any jurisprudence, but just reading?

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                                    3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
                                    Text added to please the board gods

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                                      What the hell do they teach on these PPE degrees these days? Because is certainly isn't anything connected to reality.

                                      Can't we just skip all this foreplay and get to the bit where HMS Westminster (and all who sail in her) gets hauled out into the north sea and holed below decks?

                                      The EU would be better off without Britain and Britain would be better off without Westminster.

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                                        Originally posted by TonTon View Post
                                        Text added to please the board gods
                                        Good spot.

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                                          TAB and Lang Spoon were wondering when reality was going to hit the Brexiteers.

                                          Watch this and tell me they are prepared to listen to reality.

                                          https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1072444378231255040

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                                            Does anyone else think the reason they couldn't get that car door open is because May was holding it closed from the inside?

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                                              Multiple reports that the 48 letters have now been reached - Brady to talk to May after PMQs.

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                                                Is there any process to verify the number of letters Brady's got? Whenever this comes up, you see lists of people who say they've sent in letters.

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                                                  Even the BBC guy is thinking about it in the wrong terms. It's not that the EU is looking after the small nation, it's that the Good Friday Agreement, has the word Agreement in it, and the EU will burn your non-EU economy down over a broken agreement with an EU country. It doesn't really matter who you are, it doesn't matter who the country is, or what it's over, And why it hardly ever happens. It's one of the main reasons why countries join the EU. It makes your dealings with the outside world considerably more predictable. If you have an agreement with another country, they will stick to it, or they will get a visit from the serious looking people in rimless glasses, who can speak five languages, who will have challenging questions.
                                                  Last edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 11-12-2018, 22:38.

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                                                    It matters to those people that it's Ireland. But yeah.

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