the die was cast in those 4 months though.the parameters were established.
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We're not going to agree, but I think his leadership manifesto says a lot about what his limitations are, and those are more important than the leadership collection. He didn't understand the parameters properly himself.
But credit to him for other achievements, especially on austerity.
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I see nothing in what labour have done since that suggests that an uninterrupted period after the last referendum would have lead to any different approach. Labour fought the last election entirely on the premise of ignoring brexit and assuming it would be ok. The way that they are carrying on since suggests that they have no better understanding of the European Union, or how it functions or what is likely to happen next than they did during their rather unimpressive campaign.
I'm profoundly unconvinced by the leadership of the labour party, I don't think that they understand what is happening at all. and since they don't understand what is going on, but even if they did, I would consider their ability to shape the debate on what happened next, marginal in the extreme. so I don't think that leadership challenge would have mattered. The other issue though is that while history is going hammer corbyn for his woolly brained inactivity and incurious stupidity, at this key period, history isn't even going to recall who the non-entities who launched that coup were.
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I would be emigrating. You're all fucked. This is national suicide born of ignorance, stupidity and dishonesty. This is happening because you have a poisoned political class of mental and moral degenerates, and your country is having one of its periodic spasms of rejecting reason, thought and knowledge. Things are going to get an awful lot worse before they can get any better.Last edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 23-06-2018, 19:34.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View PostI would be emigrating. You're all fucked. This is national suicide born of ignorance, stupidity and dishonesty. This is happening because you have a poisoned political class of mental and moral degenerates, and your country is having one of its periodic spasms of rejecting reason, thought and knowledge. Things are going to get an awful lot worse before they can get any better.
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Originally posted by sw2borshch View PostNah, I'm on the side of the angels. I'm a Diverted Profits Tax investigator.
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I've done compliance work for about fifteen years, but this DPT thing for about fifteen months - I've gone from dealing with backstreet businesses and accountants to the henchmen of the masters of the universe. All I can say is it's no wonder they get away with so much, but a moral degenerate is a moral degenerate...
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostThat use of “comp” would utterly befuddle Americans.
It always means “compensation” here and therefore sounds like you are negotiating a bribe.
Not to be confused with Compo.
Actually, the client probably wouldn't have said "comp". More like, "Can you sort the tax out?"
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Tory MP for Yeovil speaks. (Raab is calling for the usual "just be tough" stuff).
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Quite right @DominicRaab deal with the risks yes, and we can for instance in supply chains including aerospace, but not at the expense of the opportunities that come from being a completely independent country
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/...rofumo-1368236
Leonardo Helicopters boss Alessandro Profumo 'worried' about effect of Brexit on Yeovil site
The company's Somerset site employs 3,000 people
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On the day Boris Johnson calls for a "Full British Brexit", this from Siemen's chief exec...
"I think the realities are setting in and I think it is time to get
away from slogans, 'full British Brexit', 'going into combat with Europe'. It's all incredibly unhelpful"
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Siemens boss: "What we need to do now is to get closer with our European partners and work out what a realistic, pragmatic Brexit is that works for both sides, the EU and ourselves."
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View PostHe's Irish. He's able to point out the insanity of the situation without thinking about the strategy.
If I were in corbyn's position, I would have campaigned on an anti austerity ticket, pointing out that the Uk's problems had nothing to do with the EU and everything to do with the Tories, and that historically the EU is the only thing in the world interested in regional development in the UK. And crucially if elected would drive an EU wide Move to tax companies, and end austerity. And when elected, use the EU to help smash the UK's network of tax havens. (I'd keep that bit secret though)Last edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 23-06-2018, 22:17.
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