Liam Foxy sounding surprisingly open to transition, by the look of it. We've got them on the run. Now, if farmers could get their arses in gear...
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View PostIf I were in corbyn's position, I would have campaigned on an anti austerity ticket, pointing out that the Uk's problems had nothing to do with the EU and everything to do with the Tories, and that historically the EU is the only thing in the world interested in regional development in the UK. And crucially if elected would drive an EU wide Move to tax companies, and end austerity. And when elected, use the EU to help smash the UK's network of tax havens. (I'd keep that bit secret though)
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The reform bit was the bit that revealed that they knew nothing about the EU. All of the complaints about how the EU operates fell into two distinct categories. the first was how the UK interprets and implements EU regulations within the UK, and a second was a list of things that the EU wants to do but is stopped from doing so primarily by the UK govt. There was never any sense from the remain camp that the UK was basically every bit as influential in the shaping and running of the EU as Germany or France.
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Jeremy Hunt hits back at Airbus over Brexit warnings on jobs
Minister says comments from businesses risk undermining Theresa May in talks with EU
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Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View PostPredictably the first response says Siemens needs to "respect the people's vote".
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have obviously agreed to stick with the nonsensical "telling the EU what a disaster 'no deal' will be weakens our negotiating hand" as if it actually was a poker game and the EU didn't know exactly what was in the UK's hand.
Professional idiot John Rentoul was talking in the same terms as that re the Rebels last week. He also thinks the SNP complaints re devolution are a ball of smoke about grievance generating on fracking. Stupid cunt.Last edited by Lang Spoon; 24-06-2018, 14:01.
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Originally posted by HeavyDracula View PostYou know what I love, and what’s totally not redundant? Saying what people should have done in the past but didn’t.
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View PostThe BBC matched the head of Simens UK whom employ 14 000 people inthe Uk and have a turnover of 6 billion with a seventy year old bloke who has a factory employing 200 people and a turnover of about 13 million a year. Bloke said when Airbus leave we should make the whole plane. We've got Rolls Royce after all.
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... If Airbus supply chain is threatened by disruption, who will be disrupting? Not the UK government! And in the end neither EU not France will want to hurt Airbus, deal or no deal.
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Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View PostThere you go. Whatever happens, won't be the government's fault. See also "won't be us putting up a border".
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He might. Baker, Braverman and defeated MP, Stewart Jackson, probably don't.
I see Guto Bebb, Welsh Tory Defence Minister, has ticked off the Welsh Tory leader for being "unhelpful" re Airbus. Bebb isn't the best, but Airbus do come under his brief. He can see the cluster fuck.
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View PostAnother good (and long) piece by Anthony Barnett. for me one of the best British commentators on Brexit.
Essentially you know that the Remain side didn't understand what the EU does, when they allowed the Leave side to run with the story about red tape, because about 75% of what the EU does is taking 28 different types of red tape, and turn it into one common set of regulations, simplifying everything, and making the single European market possible. Whether it's by eliminating roaming charges for mobile phones, or even making everyone switch to the one type of phone charger. (Hi Apple) The mad thing is that just before Brexit, the European union implemented a common customs policy which radically simplified customs procedures right across the union. From each country having its own system of dealing with goods, which varied widely from Germany, where the procedure would take a day and require four pieces of paperwork to export a container, to Greece, where you needed to pass 11 procedures and it took five weeks. Now it's just one online form, it takes an hour (if you're sending it by road) to a slightly longer timeframe if you're sending it by boat (Ireland, UK, Greece, cyprus and Malta). Even this change could be seen in the 25% rise in traffic using Dover since then.
One major advantage of coming from a smaller country is that you know stuff like your medicines are regulated by the EU, Because the idea that a small country would have its own medicine testing agency is mental. If you live in a big country, you might not think that was impossible. The other thing is that since the general level of knowledge in the UK about Northern Ireland is essentially non-existent, the UK is effectively the only country in the EU without a land border, so there isn't any concept of what leaving the customs union entails, and what a massive pain in the hole that is going to be. So only the UK could imagine it was possible to leave the customs union without it instantly crippling your economy. If you didn't work in Dover port, you probably wouldn't know that 7,000 lorries use the port every day, and the only way this can work is that if you are only doing spot checks for customs. That number has jumped by a quarter in the last two years.
This is the problem that is going to come up wrt to the customs union. It's not going to be the tariff barriers that are going to fuck the UK, it's going to be the failure to comply with regulations, and the nightmare of customs. I can't see a way for the UK govt out of this.
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Airbus making ‘ridiculous empty threats’ and saying they’ll pull out of Bristol and Britain in the event of a ‘no-deal’ Brexit is ‘neither helpful nor credible’.
That was the stark verdict of the local MP in a statement slamming his constituency’s biggest employer.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/b...ly-not-1705711
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