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    It appears that the deciding vote was cast by the African confederation.

    Which is housed in the South African Rugby Union’s headquarters . . .

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      Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
      Intriguingly, Ireland scored 8 votes in the first round, but England, Scotland and Wales had 9 to allocate, so evidently, one of the three reneged on us, despite May's invocations.
      Which May?

      Peter Jackson on Twitter is saying England voted for Ireland to host but Scotland and Wales did not (which seems par for the course with regard to Celtic unity) which did for them in the first round of voting.

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        Wales make 14 changes to the starting XV for the visit of Georgia on Saturday. I've made a last minute decision to take the boy as I realised his mum had double-booked him for the All Blacks game a week later, could be a difficult one :

        15. Liam Williams (Saracens) (44 Caps)
        14. Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues) (46 Caps)
        13. Scott Williams (Scarlets) (48 Caps)
        12. Owen Watkin (Ospreys) (1 Cap)
        11. Hallam Amos (Dragons) (12 Caps)
        10. Rhys Priestland (Bath) (48 Caps)
        9. Rhys Webb (Ospreys) (28 Caps);
        1. Nicky Smith (Ospreys) (15 Caps)
        2. Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues) (5 Caps)
        3. Leon Brown (Dragons) (1 Cap)
        4. Adam Beard (Ospreys) (1 Cap)
        5. Cory Hill (Dragons) (7 Caps)
        6. Dan Lydiate (CAPT - Ospreys) (60 Caps)
        7. Sam Cross (Ospreys) (1 Cap)
        8. Seb Davies (Blues) (2 Caps)

        REPLACEMENTS:

        16. Elliot Dee (Dragons) (*UNCAPPED)
        17. Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (2 Caps)
        18. Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (24 Caps)
        19. Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues) (4 Caps)
        20. Taulupe Faletau (Bath) (67 Caps)
        21. Aled Davies (Scarlets) (3 Caps)
        22. Dan Biggar (Ospreys) (57 Caps)
        23. Owen Williams (Gloucester) (2 Caps)

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          Georgia could bloody destroy that novice tight five of ours. In fact, Lydiate has almost twice as many caps as the rest of the pack put together.

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            Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
            It appears that the deciding vote was cast by the African confederation.

            Which is housed in the South African Rugby Union’s headquarters . . .
            So SA kyboshed their own bid? Bejesus, mibees they were scared of having to pull out later, like Durban’s Commonwealth Games hosting.

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              Have we covered another new attempt at a U.S. club competition - Major League Rugby?

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                Hard to think of something that would be more likely to ensure failure than Conor McGregor's involvement.

                That said, Gaelic Park is actually a sensible venue other than the artificial pitch.

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                  Bahstahn?

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                    Italy 15 Argentina 31
                    Wales 13 Georgia 6 with a play to go.

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                      Tom Francis decides to drive into the side of a ruck and gets a yellow card. Wales have to defend a scrum a player down as Leon Brown comes on. Madness.

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                        Brown is injured so it's an uncontested scrum. Wales get an advantage from this.

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                          Wales take off Seb Davies and Georgia take the lineout. Smart play.

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                            Georgia off their feet at the ruck. Game over. Wales started well but that was it.

                            Georgia must be included in the Six Nations. No excuses about fixtures or anything, they are good enough.

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                              I still don't get why we picked such an inexperienced pack against a very big unit - we played to Georgia's strengths

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                                Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                                Bahstahn?
                                Coincidentally hosting a hurling exhibition at Fenway Park this weekend. Agree with AE, surely Georgia are at least worthy of a relegation/promotion game against Italy at this stage?

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                                  Scotland 10 New Zealand 15 with fifteen minutes to go. Scotland have played well and dealt with a number of injuries.

                                  As I type the All Blacks score what will probably be the decisive try.

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                                    Also Ireland Fiji 20-20 after 70

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                                      Originally posted by Vicarious Thrillseeker View Post
                                      Also Ireland Fiji 20-20 after 70
                                      Ireland were comfortable at half time.

                                      Romania beat Samoa.

                                      Scotland just fell short in the end 17-22.

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                                        Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
                                        Ireland were comfortable at half time.

                                        Romania beat Samoa.

                                        Scotland just fell short in the end 17-22.
                                        Final score 23-20

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                                          Fifth loss in a row for France, who go down to South Africa 17-18

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                                            Originally posted by Vicarious Thrillseeker View Post
                                            I still don't get why we picked such an inexperienced pack against a very big unit - we played to Georgia's strengths
                                            Part of me often worries that certain coaches who get regularly criticised for their conservatism may sometimes send out wildly experimental (and suicidal) sides to deliberately show people "they should be careful what they wish for". Today may have been Gatland doing this.

                                            To be honest, as much as it was clearly a desperate scraped win against opponents who deserved at least a draw I was relatively happy with it as I was genuinely concerned that our kids/reserve side would lose.

                                            The stupid chicanery from both sides with regard to the prospect of scrums after Francis’s yellow card soured the end of the match (Georgia faked an injury to get original tight head Chilachava back on the pitch and we responded in kind by pretending our subbed props were injured) and made it almost as farcical a climax as against France in the 6N.

                                            That said, we could (and possibly should, I need to see the video to judge some officiating that seemed perverse in the stadium) have been 20-0 or so up at half time before we decided we would play the game Georgia wanted after the break.

                                            Terrible, terrible, appalling crowd in today. The only consistent vocal support came from a big block of army cadets sat behind one set of posts but mostly it was a huge amount of daytrippers, stag & hen nights and event junkies. Four of the latter in front of me spent the entire second half looking at Halfpenny in a box ten rows behind rather than the thirty players on the pitch. The WRU needs to start setting people rugby exams before they’ll sell them a ticket.
                                            Last edited by Ray de Galles; 19-11-2017, 00:01.

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                                              Germany 17-46 USA

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                                                Stade Francais v Oyonnax this morning was an unexpectedly compelling 39-35 thrillfest and excellent fun to watch. A pity that there weren’t more people in the stadium watching it, a Sunday 12:30pm kick off on an international weekend against the bottom side from 500km away must be a hard enough sell even before you factor in Stade’s poor form this season.

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                                                  Exeter v Quins is turning in to a stormer too, 14-14 with half time approaching.

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                                                    I must have missed it being announced yesterday but Liam Williams joined Jonathan Davies on the injured list for the remaining Autumn Tests meaning our two best backs are out for the All Blacks game (Williams would have missed the extra match against SA a week later anyway as it’s outside the window where foreign clubs have to release players). Cuthbert’s out too, the poor unlucky dab.

                                                    Shaun Edwards is mooting a return to midfield for Jamie Roberts in an attempt to negate Sonny Bill which makes me think that won’t really happen. Tipuric may go straight in to the side on his return from injury if he has proved his fitness in training this week. Side announced tomorrow morning, I presume.

                                                    In other news, George North is returning to Welsh club rugby next season and Mike Phillips is making a comeback for the Scarlets’ next two games in South Africa as they only have one for scrum half.

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