Trump's Card

[Satchmo Distel]

Trump attacks Don Lemon, who by pure coincidence is black.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Mary Fallin, governor of Oklahoma, has just got -69 in a poll.

[Eggchaser]

Obama Did It environmental rollbacks latest:

Neocontinoids in, improved gas mileage out, oh, and in a way to defeat California CARB rules. States rights don't matter if there's no profit for the administration.

And pretty much every car manufacturer lobbied for this.

I despair of humanity.

[Eggchaser]

Double post

[Satchmo Distel]

So when there are no bees left to pollinate plants and that then creates an imbalance of flora and fauna and not enough plants absorbing carbon dioxicide, etc...? But we are beyond hope at this point, truly.

[Eggchaser]

Who cares, a few more dollars will have accrued to some long dead billionaires' bank accounts some years before that happens.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

The immediate effect is going to be an uptick in the amount of money that they get from rubes and gun industry types, and their ability to find alternative service providers is significant.

Well I have no doubt that in a years time, there will be an angry conservative Gun rights paramilitary organization standing exactly where the NRA is today. But is it going to be the same organization? Aside from their financial issues, They seem to be up to their bollocks in treason. Maybe best to try again, particularly if as seems likely they get taken over by Oliver fucking North.

[Incandenza]

Mary Fallin, governor of Oklahoma, has just got -69 in a poll.

Nice

[Satchmo Distel]

She's gone down a lot recently, etc

Nice to see it's not just the country that's on its knees, etc

[ursus arctos]

Sunday mornings are reliably the worst

[ursus arctos]

As I was saying

https://twitter.com/DougSaunders/status/1026122019853803520

https://twitter.com/DougSaunders/sta...22019853803520

[Tubby Isaacs]

Is this going to have any, um, practical effects for him?

This on the other hand is merely very funny.

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..Because of Tariffs we will be able to start paying down large amounts of the $21 Trillion in debt that has been accumulated, much by the Obama Administration, while at the same time reducing taxes for our people. At minimum, we will make much better Trade Deals for our country!

[ursus arctos]

No practical effects until the midterms, and then only if the Democrats take at least one house.

That said, it is becoming more and more apparent that Mueller will use his tweets against him in any report that the investigation produces.

Yeah, his stuff on tariffs rates highly on the unintentional comedy scale.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Cheers.

Poll from NY24.

[ursus arctos]

If only we could mute individual words on here . . .

[Tubby Isaacs]

Poll?

[ursus arctos]

See, it doesn't work.

[Tubby Isaacs]

It's all new to me, following mid terms from this far out, you see.

[San Bernardhinault]

No practical effects until the midterms, and then only if the Democrats take at least one house.

In terms of practical effects of stuff - everyone got excited a couple of weeks ago about election campaign finance stuff, and how Trump's possible donation to his campaign to pay off a Playboy model might not just be a fine-worthy offence prosecuted by the FEC, but might actually be a federal crime.

So, if Trump were theoretically guilty of such a crime, and it was prosecuted, what would the actual consequences be? Would there - for any politician - ever be even the slightest risk of jail time for campaign finance fraud? Would there even be a prohibition on running again?

Because I see everyone getting desperately excited about it possibly being illegal, and I keep thinking that there's actually no sanction that will come into play that's worth shit.

[ursus arctos]

Yes, politicians can go to jail for election finance violations.

But the first order issue here is that it seems quite clear that Mueller is not going to indict a sitting President.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Fires in California made worse by water being "diverted into the Pacific Ocean", apparently. A phenomenon usually known as a river.

[San Bernardhinault]

Yes, politicians can go to jail for election finance violations.

But the first order issue here is that it seems quite clear that Mueller is not going to indict a sitting President.

Would that necessarily be Mueller's job, for a campaign finance violation related to paying off an ex-lover? Surely that would be outside Mueller's remit, and would have to be done by someone else.

[Ginger Yellow]

But the first order issue here is that it seems quite clear that Mueller is not going to indict a sitting President.

And besides, you know he'd pardon himself

[ursus arctos]

SB, it wasn’t clear which campaign finance violation you were referring to, and I assumed it was the “item of value”aspect of the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians, which clearly is within Mueller’s remit. I would agree with you about the Daniels payment, but that would still be something most likely to be referred by Mueller to a a US Attorney’s office, in which case Mueller’s own view on the issue remains relevant, as does the current DOJ guidance (which comes to the same conclusion).

GY, I think that there is a real chance. That a self-pardon wouldn’t withstand the inevitable court challenge, even with Kavanagh on SCOTUS.

[Ginger Yellow]

Oh for sure. But it's yet another hurdle to there being legal consequences for his behaviour.