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    Meanwhile back in Vampire squid world

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      Scooter Libby pardoned.

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        Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post

        Fuck knows if there’s an alternative (severely doubt govt research labs would get the funding necessary to develop the drugs) but Big Pharma and the investment model, it’s pure evil.

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          I think everyone has always been pretty comfortable with the idea that Trump disliked Obama enough to get prostitutes to defile a bed he slept in.

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            It doesn't seem likely that Comey would make up a conversation about prostitutes pissing on a future POTUS. If it he were going to fabricate something, he would make it about Trump saying something criminal rather than comical, no matter how much this embarrasses Trump.

            OTOH it makes it difficult for Fox etc to attack Comey because it will just bring piss-gate straight into viewers' minds, like Cameron sticking his penis in the pig's head.

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              Originally posted by Bruno
              I don't think we want Trump to have a stroke do we? With Pence the GOP situation starts to look better.
              It's a moral dilemma: the joy of watching Trump drooling in a wheelchair versus the shit of Pence perhaps winning in 2020, or at least doing enough to preserve the House or Senate (plus some truly evil moral conservative legislation).

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                Pence is a dud.

                Trump being a businessman was very important to winning.

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                  Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
                  I think everyone has always been pretty comfortable with the idea that Trump disliked Obama enough to get prostitutes to defile a bed he slept in.
                  And him being a neatfreak is a very easy connection to guess that he might be sexually aroused by something that would be unclean and taboo.

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                    But he's done stuff that is so much worse in every way. I mean really, who the fuck cares when, according to Comey, he's been he's running the Oval Office like it was the Cosa Nostra.

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                      Pence would struggle to win a second term, but he could do a lot of damage in the interim. Even so, he's not fucking Trump.

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                        Originally posted by Amor de Cosmos View Post
                        But he's done stuff that is so much worse in every way. I mean really, who the fuck cares when, according to Comey, he's been he's running the Oval Office like it was the Cosa Nostra.
                        Because it would be very funny. I don't think there's any impropriety or it makes him any less qualified to be president, but it would be funny and we're in so much trouble that I don't mind looking for laughter when I can take it.

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                          I know, and I didn't mean to sound pompous, but it bothers me that it's, apparently, the first thing that Comey was asked about. I'm not surprised just disappointed. Again.

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                            It's quite amazing that his handling of the Clinton investigation is now almost an afterthought for a lot of people, and his book seems to raise more questions than settle them:

                            Those characteristics can sometimes be seen in Comey’s account of his handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation, wherein he seems to have felt a moral imperative to address, in a July 2016 press conference, what he described as her “extremely careless” handling of “very sensitive, highly classified information,” even though he went on to conclude that the bureau recommend no charges be filed against her. His announcement marked a departure from precedent in that it was done without coordination with Department of Justice leadership and offered more detail about the bureau’s evaluation of the case than usual.

                            As for his controversial disclosure on Oct. 28, 2016, 11 days before the election, that the F.B.I. was reviewing more Clinton emails that might be pertinent to its earlier investigation, Comey notes here that he had assumed from media polling that Clinton was going to win. He has repeatedly asked himself, he writes, whether he was influenced by that assumption: “It is entirely possible that, because I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president, my concern about making her an illegitimate president by concealing the restarted investigation bore greater weight than it would have if the election appeared closer or if Donald Trump were ahead in all polls. But I don’t know.”

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                              Originally posted by Incandenza View Post
                              Because it would be very funny. I don't think there's any impropriety or it makes him any less qualified to be president, but it would be funny and we're in so much trouble that I don't mind looking for laughter when I can take it.
                              In fairness, the pee tape is mostly about whether or not Trump was Putin's puppet.

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                                so Cohen has been under Grand Jury investigation for a couple of months, and they've already been through his emails.

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                                  Details of the attack, executed together with Britain and France

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                                    Gah, some of us burn through our 6 free articles too quickly for WaPo links. Lets see what the BBC has to say

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                                      President Trump ordered a military attack against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Friday, joining allies Britain and France in launching missile strikes in retaliation for what Western nations said was the deliberate gassing of Syrian civilians.

                                      The coordinated strike marked the second time in a year that Trump has used force against Assad, who U.S. officials believe has continued to test the West’s willingness to accept gruesome chemical attacks.

                                      Trump announced the strikes in an address to the nation Friday evening. He said, “The purpose of our action tonight is to establish a strong deterrent” against the production and use of chemical weapons, describing the issue as vital to national security. Trump added that the U.S. is prepared “to sustain this response” until its aims are met.

                                      Trump asked both Russia and Iran, both Assad backers, “what kind of nation wants to be associated” with mass murder and suggested that some day the U.S. might be able to g”et along” with both if they change their policies.

                                      President Trump walks through the Collonade toward the crowd gathered in the Rose Garden, April, 12. (Bill O'Leary/The Washington Post)
                                      The assault followed repeated threats of military action from Trump, who has been moved by civilian suffering to set aside his concerns about foreign military conflicts, since the reported chemical attack that killed civilians in the rebel-held town outside Damascus last weekend.

                                      The operation capped nearly a week of debate in which Pentagon leaders voiced concerns that an attack could pull the United States into Syria’s civil war and trigger a dangerous conflict with Assad ally Russia — without necessarily halting chemical attacks.

                                      Both Syria and Russia have denied involvement in the attack, which Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov alleged had been staged.

                                      The episode is the latest illustration of the hazards arising from a conflict that has killed an estimated half-million people and drawn in world powers since it began as a peaceful uprising in 2011.

                                      The attack raised the possibility of retaliation by Russia or Iran, which also provides military support to Assad, threatening in particular to increase the risks facing a force of 2,000 Americans in Syria, as part of the battle against the Islamic State. While the United States has not been at war with the Syrian government, U.S. troops often operate in proximity to Iranian- or Russian-backed groups.

                                      In the wake of last weekend’s gruesome attack, some U.S. officials advocated a larger, and therefore riskier, strike than the limited action Trump had ordered in April 2017, also in response to suspected chemical weapons use.

                                      That attack involved 59 Tomahawk missiles fired from two U.S. warships in the Mediterranean Sea. It fulfilled Trump’s vow that chemical weapons are a “red line” that he, unlike his predecessor Barack Obama, would not allow Assad to cross. But the airfield targeted by the Pentagon resumed operations shortly after the attack and, according to Western intelligence assessments, chemical attacks resumed.

                                      Assad’s defiance has presented Trump with a choice of whether to make a larger statement and incur a larger risk this time. Planning for these strikes focused on ways to curb Assad’s ability to use such weapons again.

                                      Risks of a wider attack include the possibility of a dangerous escalation with Russia, whose decision to send its military to Syria in 2015 reversed the course of the war in Assad’s favor. Since then, Russia has used Syria as a testing ground for some of its most sophisticated weaponry.

                                      “Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and ‘smart!’ ” Trump tweeted Wednesday, referring to U.S. missiles.

                                      That took miliary officials by surprise. But on Thursday, Trump said he did not mean to suggest missile strikes were imminent.

                                      “Never said when an attack on Syria would take place,” he tweeted. “Could be very soon or not so soon at all!”

                                      A larger strike, possibly including stealth aircraft and strikes on multiple sites, could inflict lasting damage to military facilities and economic infrastructure that have been vital to Assad’s ability to gain the upper hand in a seven-year civil war.

                                      Since last year’s strike, multiple chemical attacks have been reported in opposition areas, most of them involving chlorine rather than the nerve agent sarin, as was used in 2017, suggesting the government may have adjusted its tactics.

                                      Among the chief factors military planners must consider are air defenses in Syria, which were bolstered by Russia’s decision to enter the war in 2015 and could pose a threat should the Pentagon employ manned aircraft in the attack. Their reach was demonstrated in February when an Israeli F-16 fighter jet crashed amid Syrian antiaircraft fire.

                                      The United States has flown an array of aircraft over Syria since it began strikes against the Islamic State in 2014, but those operations have mostly steered clear of government and Russian activities. The Assad regime has not authorized the U.S. operations, but it also has not tried to shoot down American aircraft.
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                                        Details of the announcement of the attack, rather?

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                                          BBC link

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                                            At this point, there's a lot of people on television applying virtual KT tape to maps.

                                            Trump looked even more fucked than usual, but just about made it through his speech, Rocky II style.

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                                              Is this going to be like the last one, where they blew up a couple of sheds?

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                                                Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                                Sorry, I meant more that what has actually happened is a bit moot (understandably) so far.

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                                                  Thanks for the article ursus.

                                                  That figure seems a bit high Bruno given that they recommenced attacks within a couple of hours. also I'm unsure that given the sheer number of airbases in syria that they had that many active airplanes at one base. Then again syria doesn't really have very many operational aircraft. What it does have are hundreds and hundreds of planes, about as old as me and older, and about as likely to take flight as I am. i suspect that may account for a lot of the damage done.
                                                  Last edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 14-04-2018, 02:39.

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