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      SB, I wish I was as optimistic that the GOP will not immediately turn back into deficit hawks, gutting social programmes left and right now that they have a "win".

      Fox's obsession with their failure to get rid of the carried interest deduction is somewhat interesting.

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        Oh, of course they'll immediately turn back into deficit hawks. But right now they have $1.5tn of borrowing which can, in theory, be used for whatever congress decides, and if congress becomes Democratic and changes its mind about a 21% corporate tax rate or not having inheritance tax, they can spend it on something useful instead.

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          Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
          and if congress becomes Democratic
          LOL

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            I said Democratic, not democratic.

            It probably won't happen in 2018, but it might in 2020.

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              It doesn't matter whom the representatives are in Congress. It will never be democratic, nor Democratic. America is not cut out for that.

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                SALT is a direct attack at their political opponents. Areas which are pissed that the Federal Government doesn't offer enough, so mobilize on a local level to provide (typically) better education to all.

                In turn now you can fund high school education through a 529 plan (tax deductible in most those high local tax states), so there is a preference for low local tax, underfunded schools and then funnel your kids through private schooling. The rich get options, the poor likely get worse schools.

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                  That is absolutely true for Nevada. And no-one has noticed. And I don't get to say.

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                    Coin toss in Virginia? Literally?

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                      https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/cou...y-a-coin-toss/

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                        The rebubs will win the coin toss. Please go for a second recount, I’d like to see the court’s reasoning for switching that vote.

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                          I'd like to see the ballot

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                            Probably still a Republican majority even if that happens.

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                              Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                              I'd like to see the ballot

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                                No wonder it took them two hours to decide that that was a clear vote for Yancey

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                                  Probably not somebody who did well in standardised testing in school.

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                                    Maybe they should use pencils, or green crayons?

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                                      Jeb Lund:

                                      If there is one thing the Democratic Party needs to learn fast, it’s the use of power. When they don’t have it, they think they can reason some of it back into their possession. When they have it, they compromise it. When we, the voters, give it to them, they bargain down their own promises to something they can live with, a power impotent and cringing enough that the only people in danger of taking offense are their supporters. If conservatives don’t feel shame, Democrats more than make up for the shortfall by being ashamed of acting like they have the right to be in charge.

                                      That won’t work either. Demanding decency from Republicans will fail. Demanding a return of pre-Trump tax rates will fail. No voter dreams of revisiting the days when they were already abandoned, unhappy and endangered. The same underfunded system that underserved millions of Americans is not a mythic, economic Pax Americana; its restoration will not do anything but bring back a slower rate of collapse.

                                      It is time to reason with Republicans in one of the few ways they understand and in the only way they respect. It is time to break them and take from them with all the unconcern with which they take from you. It is time to honor the trust that Democratic voters, against almost all signs, continue to bestow on their representatives. It is time not to restore taxes but to raise them. Raise them until Donald Trump’s children squeal.

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                                        Some astonishing stuff from the Jerusalem vote today.
                                        So much to unpick...

                                        Firstly: Brilliant. Countries stood up to the bullying of Trump.

                                        Secondly: Nikki Haley "“I must also say today: When we make generous contributions to the UN, we also have expectation that we will be respected,” she said. “What’s more, we are being asked to pay for the dubious privileges of being disrespected.” Hoooollllyyy sheeeeiiiitttt. So contributing to the UN gives you the right to win every vote you're part of? Incredible stuff. (Still I guess that is how the Republicans understand the world)

                                        Thirdly: The Israeli ambassador: “You are like puppets pulled by your Palestinian masters,” Hahahahahahahaha. Those Palestinian puppet masters ruling the world with their cunning strategy of being brutally oppressed for the crime of being Palestinian.

                                        Wow. Just wow.

                                        The 7 other countries who voted against the motion? Palau, the FSM, The Marshall islands, Honduras, Guatamala, Togo, Nauru.

                                        Thank fuck that everybody stood up to the bullying. There were a fair number of abstentions, including some big hitters in Canada and Australia (and a few Eastern European countries, including the one I'm in), but still. Bullying doesn't work. That, almost as much as the resolution, is a fucking vital outcome of today.

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                                          Israel massively bribes the Pacific micro states for UN votes, don’t they?

                                          The famously pro Palestinian Gulf States, why don’t they try the same trick? Apart from not really giving a fuck, obvs.

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                                            It's more than just bribery, though. Because they were effectively part of the US from the end of WWII until the 70s, there are a lot of close ties. They are sort of not quite but almost bits of the US (They have US post codes, a lot of the young men serve in the US Military, they get grants and stuff from US funds that are earmarked for their own citizens, etc etc. The system is basically a US one stuck onto a culture for which it doesn't fit)

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                                              Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
                                              ...including some big hitters in Canada and Australia (and a few Eastern European countries, including the one I'm in), but still. Bullying doesn't work.
                                              Oh, yeah. We marked ourselves as 'big hitters' with our cowardly abstention because we objected to the wording...or something. Bullying most certainly works.

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                                                Nah. 128 countries voted for the resolution. Fuck those weak arsed ones who abstained. They don't count.

                                                (literally, since that's effectively what abstaining does)

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                                                  What's up with Togo?

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                                                    Dunno. They must have blinked.

                                                    Or they;ve got some US funded project going on.

                                                    Or they just really really think Jerusalem should be the undivided capital of Israel.

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