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    Nick Ayers' stature rises further in the Republican Party by refusing to take John Kelly's job and therefore remains relatively untarnished by the White House. Smart lad. I expect to see him placed in some very easy-to-win Senate or House race in the nearish future.

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      Originally posted by anton pulisov View Post
      Yeah, Beto takes quite a bit out of the "red state blue state" and "yes we can" Obama playbook. In other words, he sounds like he's saying a lot, but he really isn't The one thing that Beto does have going for him however is that he doesn't take PAC money.

      Would like to see Tulsi Gabbard have a go, but as people have pointed out, policy only gets you halfway there. She doesn't have much in the way of charisma.

      Sanders has charisma in spades, but he is fairly old.
      If Beto is the best the Democratic party can do, then they have no chance.
      Didn't he lost recently to the guy who Trump wiped the floor with in the Republican primary?

      As I have said numerous times, Trump will win easily in 2020.

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        Berto is a clown. And a stooge for Israel.

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          But he's young and doesn't wear a tie and used to be in a rock band.

          It has to be noted, before we start comparing apples with oranges, that Teddy Cruz wiped the floor with Donald Trump in the Texas primary in 2016.

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            Originally posted by anton pulisov View Post

            It has to be noted, before we start comparing apples with oranges, that Teddy Cruz wiped the floor with Donald Trump in the Texas primary in 2016.
            It should also be noted that someone who cannot win a senitorial race should not be considered for a Presidential race less than two years later.

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              I don't understand the Cult Of Beto. But the idea that losing Texas by 2.5% in a Senate Race means you're a sad loser, yet winning (say) California by 10% shows that you're a winning winner is patent nonsense.

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                Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
                It should also be noted that someone who cannot win a senitorial race should not be considered for a Presidential race less than two years later.
                Convention says no. But he doesn't wear a tie. He's unconventional, man.

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                  SB is correct

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                    Inexperience would be a bigger issue (but it didn't stop Trump)

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                      Not being a particularly compelling candidate would be a bigger issue. Failure to win in Texas is not.

                      The only compelling thing about having Beto as a candidate is that he resists the nonsense "We must appeal to old, white, working class men in the rust-belt, and therefore can only nominate Joe Biden or Sherrod Brown" narrative.

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                        Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
                        Not being a particularly compelling candidate would be a bigger issue. Failure to win in Texas is not.

                        The only compelling thing about having Beto as a candidate is that he resists the nonsense "We must appeal to old, white, working class men in the rust-belt, and therefore can only nominate Joe Biden or Sherrod Brown" narrative.
                        What the heck is wrong with Sherrod Brown?

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                          Wow - he's gone from unelectably weird to predictably more of the same in a matter of seconds. That's some turnaround.

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                            Meanwhile

                            https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/1072161772348542978

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                              Democrats need someone boring.

                              Adam Schiff.

                              *Although I would rather vote for Richard Schiff, but I don't vote, so moot is my middle name.

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                                Don't wish to worry anybody but Mark Meadows apparently in the running for chief of staff.

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                                  Well, so is bogs-for-long-membered-gents vendor, Matthew Whitaker. And Mick Mulvaney. Mark Meadows looks no more like a comedy candidate than the others do.

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                                    The danger is that Meadows would actually take the job.

                                    The CEO of the New York Yankees turned it down earlier today.

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                                      Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
                                      I don't understand the Cult Of Beto. But the idea that losing Texas by 2.5% in a Senate Race means you're a sad loser, yet winning (say) California by 10% shows that you're a winning winner is patent nonsense.
                                      That a fair point, but Texas it the kind of state you would like to win as a democrat if you have aspirations to become president. California is more or less a given. If he had beat Cruz, that would have been a massive statement as the Democrats never win there in a presidential election.
                                      Can you imagine "loser" Beto going against Trump in a presidential election?

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                                        Does anyone really believe that the Current US Economic bubble can last another 2 years, with Trump trying to start trade wars with everyone?

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                                          Sherrod Brown does seem to be the best option.

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                                            The remaining staff in the Alamo on Pennsylvania Avenue appear to

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                                              US economic bubble is already deflating and you can already see it in falling home sales, maybe lower house prices, inconsistent job growth numbers, stock market volatility. It may not be a recession, but nobody seems to think that sustained growth is going to continue. Particularly as the pump-priming from the stupid tax cuts begins to run out over the next few months.

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                                                Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
                                                That a fair point, but Texas it the kind of state you would like to win as a democrat if you have aspirations to become president. California is more or less a given. If he had beat Cruz, that would have been a massive statement as the Democrats never win there in a presidential election.
                                                Can you imagine "loser" Beto going against Trump in a presidential election?
                                                Texans do have a tendancy to vote for Texans though. If Beto can get within 3% running against a Texan Republican, then who knows what he can do when he is up against an out of state Republican.

                                                But yeah, Trump will just repeatedly call him "loser Beto" or "beat Beto". It would probably work. He's very good with the simple adjectives.
                                                Last edited by anton pulisov; 10-12-2018, 22:28.

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                                                  Living in a country that recently blew itself up with a bubble, I find myself really struck by the degree that US economic policy since the early 1980s seems to be entirely based around the inflation of a series of bubbles. which are invariably followed by pretty horrible busts, which completely wipe out the wealth of everyone below the top 20%, while massively enriching the elite, while impoverishing even more people. These busts seem to be getting worse, and it's difficult to gauge how damaging the next one is going to be given that the mechanisms for dealing with it have been destroyed, and the last vestiges of laws that might protect against it are being scrapped.

                                                  That the US has reached a point where they elected a cross between Mayor Quimby, and tonic salesman Abe Simpson as their fucking president, I think we need to prepare ourselves for a particularly bad one this time around.

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                                                    I think people are too scared of Trump and his ability to mock people. You shouldn't use that as a way of deciding who your candidate should be.

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