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    Harder is the guy who killed Gawker using Peter Thiel’s money and Florida’s weird rules on appeals. Stonerock is a colleague. He also works with a guy named Harwood, so I am sensing a certain pattern.

    Keep in mind that 45’s pseudonym in the contract at issue is David Dickerson.

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      I keep feeling that Donald trump is from a parallel dimension called Dimension Porno.

      dylan moran had a great line about trump when he was on Conan. He couldn't work out what it was that he found so strange about Trump's smile, but ultimately decided that it was the smile someone gives you after they've just told you they've shat in your car glovebox.

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        right but london started out nearly twice as rich per capita as the rest of the country, and remains about twice as rich as the rest. The South East catching up has as much to do with people moving out of london into the commuter belt. Sure London suffered a certain amount of damage in the war on indsutry, but nothing like the rest of the country, but that industry in the south east was replaced to a large extent by more modern industrial production, and by a massive expansion in services. Thatcherism is and always was regional and class warfare

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          That took a while though.

          Some eye-popping unemployment numbers in here from 1993.

          https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-1454334.html

          The rates for the individual boroughs were: Hackney 25.3 per cent; Tower Hamlets 24.4 per cent; Newham 22.2 per cent; Southwark 20.2 per cent; Haringey 20 per cent; Islington 19.4 per cent; Lambeth 19.3 per cent; Lewisham 15.3 per cent; Camden 14.9 per cent; Kensington and Chelsea 14.1 per cent; Hammersmith and Fulham 14 per cent; Westminster 13.9 per cent; and Wandsworth 12.9 per cent.

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            What was unemployment rate in wards of Glasgow, Liverpool or Birmingham at the time?

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              Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
              I'm not sure where I got the East midlands from. There's a pocket of substantial prosperity around birmingham , which is in the west midlands. but a lot of the rest of the region has blight. There also appears to be a fairly sharp divide between regions in the South East as well, with the bit nearer london, and the south coast doing quite well, but cornwall is about as wealthy as anywhere that scenic could be expected to be.
              I think I do remember that Scotland was the fourth “region” after London SE and “East England” (which may have included Cambridgeshire and Norfolk as well as the Leicesters and Nottinghams of the Great blight). Dunno if that’s still the GDP ranking but.

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                Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                What was unemployment rate in wards of Glasgow, Liverpool or Birmingham at the time?
                Probably higher in some, lower in others, with suburbs getting the average down below Hackney.

                Sure London boroughs are small compared to those cities, but it's still pretty striking. 4 contiguous boroughs with unemployment of at least 20%, plus a fifth with 19.2%.

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                  Yeah, the other thing is that it's primarily a class war that manifests as a regional war because of the geographical distribution of the wealthy. The Reason that there are so few second generation politicians with the accents of their parents, is because It doesn't matter how regional the politician, they all have to move to london, and they send their kids to the same fucking type of schools. Neil Kinnock may have been the son of a coal miner and a district nurse, from south wales, but his idiot son went to school in london, and to college in cambridge, so now Aberavon has a political representative who sounds like he never set foot in wales, apart from being born there.

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                    I'm in the next door constituency. We nearly got Tracey Ullman's daughter as MP. Quite impressive apparently. Beaten by an MP who's joined the Shadow Cabinet, so not much use on Brexit.

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                      Anyway, bit of a tangent.

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                        I meant comparable wards to the likes of Hackney, eg East End/inner city Southside wards of Glasgow. No point in bringing the Wendies into this. There was always a core middle class that weathered Thatcherism very nicely, thank you very much, in every Scottish (and English) town and city, no matter how fucked the economy in general. But aye, tangential.

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                          And that’s what the Sensibles can’t comprehend about The North of England, etc. they hear an accent and think Working Class. Ignoring the old Public Sector professional class (doctors, teachers, mgmt civil servants), and their offspring, still dividing the folk up the M6 into greasy self made businessmen and miners/horny handed sons of toil.

                          By income and education, half of Scotland is now middle class. The figures may be lower for the Midlands and North of England, but not much lower. But to yer Chris Martin types, turning on an accent makes you Authentic. Can think of more than one Scottish artist that has played up wc credentials this way. Easy when everyone but the very upper reaches speak some version of Scottish Standard English and broader on demand.
                          Last edited by Lang Spoon; 21-03-2018, 22:25.

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                            Yes it is quite a tangent. here's the rating of UK regions by GVA, which is one method of calculating national wealth. Table about two thirds of the way down.

                            Inner london-West, has a GDP per capita of six times the EU average. There's 1.3 million people living in that region and its economy is 1/10th of the whole UK economy, and has a gdp comparable to the republic of ireland. It's 120% higher than fucking luxembourg. It's three times as high as Inner london East. North Eastern Scotland is also one of the richest parts of the EU, as rich as fucking Vienna. which explains why scotland is the fourth richest region in the UK, Despite things not going very well. There's some really interesting and eye opening tables in this document I was wondering how the second poorest region in the EU was in France, and then a spot of light googling revealed that Mayotte is a small island off madagascar. France have a very expansive idea of their nation.

                            Oddly enough ireland's regional figures are marked with a C for confidential. Scotland is exactly bang on the EU average at GDP per capita, at PPS (Allowing for local prices) Northern Ireland is more directly comparable with lithuania, portugal or Slovakia. With the obvious difference that Bratislava is a major centre for high productivity manufacturing, and northern Ireland is rather a lot more like portugal. or outer london-East/north east. That is one of the poorest regions in the UK.

                            It's amazing how soothing tables of economic statistics are, when the main subject of this thread is so fucking insane.
                            Last edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 21-03-2018, 23:04.

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                              The North is way further behind Mexico than East Germany was from West Germany in 1989. No fucking way do we do a Kohl style electoral bribe pounds for euro equivalency. Not unless we get a Magic New Marshall Plan for Peace. Their currency up there by Unification time will be bog roll.

                              And just how Politically Sensitive is the Irish data to be confidential? The Borders North and West region or whatever sure is the poor boy to Leinster and Munster.

                              Sorry folks, carry on with the madness.
                              Last edited by Lang Spoon; 21-03-2018, 23:42.

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                                Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                                The north is way further behind Mexico than East Germany was from West Germany in 1989. No fucking way do we do a Kohl style electoral bribe pounds for euro equivalency. Not unless we get a Magic New Marshall Plan for Peace. Their currency up there by Unification time will be bog roll.
                                The exchange rate at the moment is £1 to €1.15, I'm not sure why the currency would pose a problem, also Northern Ireland is heading for the point where it will soon have very little industry that isn't primarily focused on the south. The big thing to remember about such issues is that Northern Ireland is a very small economy, and it wouldn't take very much in the way of FDI to fix a lot of their problems. Two or three decent sized factories, and reunification with Donegal would do a lot to fix Derry (And Donegal). The obvious problem with this route is that Northern Irish protestants are already falling behind Catholics as a much higher tendency to finish secondary education and go to college means that catholics have taken over most of the middle class occupations in Northern Ireland. A culture that seems to prepare people for the industrial economy of the first half of the twentieth century is an active fucking menace in dealing with the modern economy.

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                                  So is this going to be the new meme in the attack on Govt, and excuse for everything?

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                                    It has been for a while.

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                                      So to the GOP, the state is an actor but corporations are not?

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                                        no, corporations are people I think.

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                                          Dowd has resigned

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                                            Great inadvertently hilarious quotes of our time.

                                            “There’s no joy in Mudville,” House Freedom Caucus Chair Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) complained Wednesday afternoon. “The wins for conservatives will be few and far between.”

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                                              Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                              Dowd has resigned
                                              Well, that's fascinating. I think he was the voice of reason in trying to stop Trump from sacking Rosenstein (and therefore Mueller getting sacked).

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                                                The appointment of this Di Genova guy would seem to suggest that Trump has no plan on this ever getting to court, because he doesn't sound like the sort of lawyer who would do well in a courtroom.

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                                                  Di Genova is the John Bolton of the defence team

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                                                    The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Bolton was an actual part of the Defence team at some point. A bag of dogshit would be more useful in a courtroom than Di Genova.

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