I didn't know whether this fitted in the So How Did You Vote, UKIP, or Ryaniar thread - the genius of Michael O'Leary is that he can fit in all three.
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Explaining the move, he said through most of January this year the average fare paid by customers on the Stansted route was less than the APD tax of £13.
“That’s why we can't continue to sustain a route like that, where we are not even covering the local taxes here, never mind making a contribution to Ryanair’s own operating costs,” he said.
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Dublin Airport attracts trade from Northern Ireland not mainly because there's no air passenger duty as in Britain, but because Dublin's international while Aldergrove and Sydenham are sub-regional and City of Derry a glorified flying club.
From the two Belfast sites, it's a change at Heathrow, Birmingham or Manchester to go to most major Euopean cities, two changes for most places beyond that.
Yet, despite all that, Sydenham and Aldergrove are both profitable and Stormont has just found £7 million to bail out Derry. Down the back of a sofa, as Green hack Steven Agnew quipped
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Pretty much everything he says in the first five or six paragraphs is true, though. The government is full of shit if they think they're going to get some rich trade concessions while closing the borders. The UK will indeed be made an example of as a warning to any other ___exit considerers.
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Wouter D wrote:Originally posted by Guy ProfumoOriginally posted by Wouter DJust click it and see.
*Admittedly in this example that's a description of Charles de Gaulle.
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Sam wrote:Originally posted by Wouter DOriginally posted by Guy ProfumoOriginally posted by Wouter DJust click it and see.
*Admittedly in this example that's a description of Charles de Gaulle.
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E10 Rifle wrote: A stopped clock telling the right time twice a day – O'Leary's still a grade A cunt
Thankfully he's now just a figurehead. After years of tanking profits and failed overtures to EasyJet's CEO, they've just imported her business model wholesale, and they're back rolling in cash by being a wee bit nicer. Hope he's getting a massive ulcer knowing the old treat em like shit routine was thrown out by the board.
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E10 Rifle wrote: A stopped clock telling the right time twice a day – O'Leary's still a grade A cunt
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It's not really so much a stopped clock being right twice a day though. It's just the way that O'leary talks. O'Leary starts out with an analysis of a situation that seems very plausible, and shrewd, (as in above) and having gained the trust/support of the people he's talking to with his straight talking, he then seamlessly presents what he wants as part of the solution. In this instance and end to airport departure tax.
Even on that he does have a point. These taxes do have a major impact on passenger numbers at the margin, and it does seem as though the amount of money you raise from this tax is smaller than the amount of tax you collect from extra tourists and travellers. Taxes like this are easy to collect, and are great in times of a crisis, but they do have a major economic impact.
There is a real need for a proper global taxation system on airtravel, in order to price out externalities, and to reconcile the cost of a plane journey with the environmental damage caused, but this isn't really it.
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The Awesome Berbaslug!!! wrote: There is a real need for a proper global taxation system on airtravel, in order to price out externalities, and to reconcile the cost of a plane journey with the environmental damage caused, but this isn't really it.
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What's an externality?
I'm guessing most lobbies in Ireland (not just aggressive businessmen like O'Leary) would argue that, as a small island, there's a greater reliance on air traffic than most other places in Europe.
I like to travel from the English Midlands to Belfast by the 'traditional' route (ie by ship via Liverpool or Stranraer). It's a 12 or 13 hour journey (a little less by car than train). Whereas a puddlejumper from Birmingham Airport is basically a bus in the sky for three quarters of an hour...
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