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    Oh right yeah, you called me a twat. That's much better.

    So what you are saying is that Wales don't have roughhouse tactics, once you dismiss Seamus Coleman's broken leg and John O'Shea's eight stitches. Do I understand correctly?
    Last edited by anton pulisov; 11-10-2017, 10:02.

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      Actually, I didn't call you a twat. But hey, you seem to be an expert on building straw men.

      I'm out. I'm beginning to remember why I left it eight years before coming back.

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        I think if Holland had won 2-0 with goals by anybody other than Robben, I would feel a little better. They did their best, etc. But their best player, by far, has retired. I can't bear another missed tournament.

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          Stop yer squabbling boys. The first stage is over but sure the draw for that 'Nations League' thingy is out already. I haven't a clue but no doubt the OTF experts will analyse as ever.

          I can proudly claim to have been dissed as a "Fat necked Or*ng* Cunt" by none other than Ireland's leading footballer podcaster Ken Early. It was really a misunderstanding though- he thought I was calling him a Culchie.

          Talking of absent friends, phoned the Reverend Calvert yesterday but he was in a lunchtime meeting on key performance indicators. Surely that wins the twatball prize?

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            DG the worst possible outcome from that League of Nations thingy is that we could be drawn in a group of 3 with you and your southern cousins.

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              Really? I'll join you in boycotting it then. We can meet somewhere neutral (Croes Oswallt, Caer Dyfrdwy?) and watch eggy-chase on TV instead.

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                As I have said elsewhere, this whole thing smells like someone thought the Celtic Cup was a good idea

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                  Final micronation table

                  1 Faroe Islands Points = 9 GD = -12
                  2 Luxembourg Points = 6 GD = -18
                  3 Andorra Points = 4 GD = -21
                  4 Malta Points = 1 GD = -22
                  And the nil pointers
                  5 Liechtenstein GD = -38
                  6 Gibraltar GD = -44
                  7 San Marino GD = -49

                  Faroes and Luxembourg managed to avoid bottom placed finishes in their group, although Faroes were helped by having Andorra in their group. Andorra were bottom but only on goal difference.

                  San Marino were one goal shy of a round -50 for the campaign.

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                    Germany 10 0 0 43 4 39 30
                    Belgium 9 1 0 43 6 37 28
                    Spain 9 1 0 36 3 33 28
                    Portugal 9 0 1 32 4 28 27
                    Switzerland 9 0 1 23 7 16 27
                    England 8 2 0 18 3 15 26
                    Poland 8 1 1 28 14 14 25
                    Italy 7 2 1 21 8 13 23
                    France 7 2 1 18 6 12 23

                    Iceland 7 1 2 16 7 9 22
                    Serbia 6 3 1 20 10 10 21
                    Denmark 6 2 2 20 8 12 20
                    Croatia 6 2 2 15 4 11 20
                    Sweden 6 1 3 26 9 17 19
                    N Ireland 6 1 3 17 6 11 19
                    Greece 5 4 1 17 6 11 19
                    Netherlands 6 1 3 21 12 9 19
                    R Ireland 5 4 1 12 6 6 19

                    Slovakia 6 0 4 17 7 10 18
                    Scotland 5 3 2 17 12 5 18
                    Bosnia 5 2 3 24 13 11 17
                    Wales 4 5 1 13 6 7 17
                    Ukraine 5 2 3 13 9 4 17
                    Montenegro 5 1 4 20 12 8 16
                    Czechia 4 3 3 17 10 7 15
                    Slovenia 4 3 3 12 7 5 15
                    Austria 4 3 3 14 12 2 15

                    Turkey 4 3 3 14 13 1 15
                    Romania 3 4 3 12 10 2 13
                    Norway 4 1 5 17 16 1 13
                    Hungary 4 1 5 14 14 0 13
                    Albania 4 1 5 10 13 -3 13
                    Bulgaria 4 1 5 14 19 -5 13
                    Israel 4 0 6 10 15 -5 12
                    Macedonia 3 2 5 15 15 0 11
                    Estonia 3 2 5 13 19 -6 11

                    Azerbaijan 3 1 6 10 19 -9 10
                    Cyprus 3 1 6 9 18 -9 10
                    Finland 2 3 5 9 13 -4 9
                    Faeroes 2 3 5 4 16 -12 9
                    Latvia 2 1 7 7 18 -11 7
                    Armenia 2 1 7 10 26 -16 7
                    Lithuania 1 3 6 7 20 -13 6
                    Luxembourg 1 3 6 8 26 -18 6
                    Georgia 0 5 5 8 14 -6 5

                    Belarus 1 2 7 6 21 -15 5
                    Andorra 1 1 8 2 23 -21 4
                    Kazakhstan 0 3 7 6 26 -20 3
                    Moldova 0 2 8 4 23 -19 2
                    Kosovo 0 1 9 3 24 -21 1
                    Malta 0 1 9 3 25 -22 1
                    Liechtenstein 0 0 10 1 39 -38 0
                    Gibraltar 0 0 10 3 47 -44 0
                    San Marino 0 0 10 2 51 -49 0

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                        Key:

                        FUBAR (Floreat Ultonia's Boolean Algorithm)

                        Teams are ranked by points won only in WC 2018 qualifying

                        FIFA

                        All games since October 2013 count towards ranking, with greater weighting for more recent and lesser for friendlies

                        UEFA

                        All and only competitive games since September 2012 count, with lesser weighting for those before September 2014. The 'Nations League' draw is based on this ranking and is color-coded

                        Elo

                        Similar to system used to rank chess players globally
                        Last edited by Duncan Gardner; 13-10-2017, 09:00.

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