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    #26
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    Etienne wrote: the Tory vote share has been stuck between 30 and 33 for years
    Agreed, longer term trends not looking good for Dave and co (nor indeed for Ed):



    Jongudmund wrote: I'm not keen on the SNP or our own nationalists either. There's a lot of nationalist support for Welsh medium education, which in an area like mine looks uncomfortably like code for separate schools for white children
    A similar issue in NI, although there schools are generally segregated not only on socio-economic lines but by nationality. Recently, the Sinn Fein education minister approved an Irish language medium school with only about 15 pupils.

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      #27
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      I'm not overly keen on the SNP, in the scheme of things, but as social democrats go, they're the only ones we have. And they provide a way of wiping out Scottish Labour, which can only be a good thing for everyone.

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        #28
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        If the Lib Dems had convinced the public about the alternative vote system (or maybe if the Tories had backed them in that respect), UKIP would be about to do a lot better at this election than it will under 'first past the post'.

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          #29
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          No they wouldn't. UKIP would do terribly under AV, as they are despised by nearly everyone who doesn't vote for them. AV boosts parties who don't have a huge core support, but are (relatively) well-regarded by the rest of the population. IE (in 2010) the Lib Dems.

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            #30
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            I'm not sure what my status will be. Assuming the house all goes through, we'll be moving at the beginning of May.
            So I could miss my opportunity to give Simon "Vichy" Hughes a kicking in the polls.
            Where I'm moving to is unfortunately a Tory safe seat. Last election the fucker got 53%.

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              #31
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              Register for a postal vote, send it off as soon as you are able to (I think a month before the election) and job done.

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                #32
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                Hmm. Would that count as electoral fraud though? If I vote before I've moved but move before the election day?

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                  #33
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                  It appears so. Damn.

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                    #34
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                    Etienne wrote: No they wouldn't. UKIP would do terribly under AV, as they are despised by nearly everyone who doesn't vote for them. AV boosts parties who don't have a huge core support, but are (relatively) well-regarded by the rest of the population. IE (in 2010) the Lib Dems
                    Interesting to see how many second places UKIP manage this time. Consistent national poll ratings of about 12-15% suggest not many. Compare with 2010:

                    LibDem 242
                    Tory 192
                    Labour 161
                    SNP 27
                    Others 28 (NI 18, PC 5, Respect 1, Independents 4)

                    UKIP 0
                    Green 0

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                      #35
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                      It appears so. Damn
                      The problem is, you can't register to vote before you live somewhere and I won't have time to register after we've moved in as moving day and election day are likely to be less than a week apart.
                      Hmm. We need a bit of crossover, so I might make sure we're still technically tenants at our current place on that day.

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                        #36
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                        Duncan Gardner wrote:
                        Originally posted by Etienne
                        No they wouldn't. UKIP would do terribly under AV, as they are despised by nearly everyone who doesn't vote for them. AV boosts parties who don't have a huge core support, but are (relatively) well-regarded by the rest of the population. IE (in 2010) the Lib Dems
                        Interesting to see how many second places UKIP manage this time. Consistent national poll ratings of about 12-15% suggest not many. Compare with 2010:

                        LibDem 242
                        Tory 192
                        Labour 161
                        SNP 27
                        Others 28 (NI 18, PC 5, Respect 1, Independents 4)

                        UKIP 0
                        Green 0
                        Hence why the Lib Dems pushed for AV in the hope that being everyone's second choice would work in their favour. Except that isn't an indicator of the second choice of individuals at all. That's an indicator of first choices and the LDs didn't get enough to place higher than 2nd.

                        I was really put off by the very negative campaigning of the LDs on my patch and would have used my alternative votes on all the tiddly parties standing in my area (like Socialist Labour and other splitters) before I voted LD. Of course, I might not be indicative of how other people vote.

                        Last time I voted in something we had the Christian Party of Wales standing. Apparently we should leave the EU because it is a vehicle of the Anti-Christ. Which seems a bit harsh on Angela Merkel, really. (EDIT: I didn't vote for them.)(Second EDIT: In case you were wondering)

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                          #37
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                          TonTon wrote: And they provide a way of wiping out Scottish Labour, which can only be a good thing for everyone.
                          You got a lotta hate for the Labour, TonTon. Who hurt you so bad?

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                            #38
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                            hobbes wrote: I'm not sure what my status will be. Assuming the house all goes through, we'll be moving at the beginning of May.
                            So I could miss my opportunity to give Simon "Vichy" Hughes a kicking in the polls.
                            Where I'm moving to is unfortunately a Tory safe seat. Last election the fucker got 53%.
                            Contact the returning officer.

                            You should still be registered to vote in the place you left, and could either arrange a proxy, or a postal vote.

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                              #39
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                              The Rev George Hargreaves, leader of the Christian Party of Wales was poised to be the UKIP candidate for Coventry South, after the party persuaded the candidate elected by the local party to stand aside. Sadly for the bigot, this idea appears to have been shelved after Suzanne Evans their deputy chairman, seemingly unaware of his connection to UKIP, described as 'bonkers' his view that the 'satanic' Dragon symbol should be removed from the Welsh flag. This was nearly my first ever political scoop, sadly I was by 10 minutes the second person to make the connection.

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                                #40
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                                Etienne wrote: The Rev George Hargreaves, leader of the Christian Party of Wales was poised to be the UKIP candidate for Coventry South, after the party persuaded the candidate elected by the local party to stand aside. Sadly for the bigot, this idea appears to have been shelved after Suzanne Evans their deputy chairman, seemingly unaware of his connection to UKIP, described as 'bonkers' his view that the 'satanic' Dragon symbol should be removed from the Welsh flag. This was nearly my first ever political scoop, sadly I was by 10 minutes the second person to make the connection.
                                Crikey!

                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hargreaves_(politician)#Musical_career

                                In the 1980s, Hargreaves and Ajai-Ajagbe worked at Magnet Records. They wrote the theme tune for Pebble Mill at One[3] and Hargreaves promoted pop acts including Sinitta, Yazz and Five Star.[4]

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                                  #41
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                                  Yes, he wrote So Macho and Cruising for Sinitta and has used the income for a career in anti-Gay bigotry. What a charmer.

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                                    #42
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                                    Jongudmund wrote: Hence why the Lib Dems pushed for AV in the hope that being everyone's second choice would work in their favour. Except that isn't an indicator of the second choice of individuals at all. That's an indicator of first choices and the LDs didn't get enough to place higher than 2nd
                                    Disagree. It's an indicator just not an exact measure of how well they would have done in a AV poll. In the real (ie FPTP) election they persuaded plenty of people to lend votes to try to keep either Tory or Labour out. In England, none of the smaller parties could manage that.

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                                      #43
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                                      Jongudmund wrote:
                                      Originally posted by TonTon
                                      And they provide a way of wiping out Scottish Labour, which can only be a good thing for everyone.
                                      You got a lotta hate for the Labour, TonTon. Who hurt you so bad?
                                      Labour, in government and in opposition, all my life.

                                      But Scottish Labour is special.

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                                        #44
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                                        I'm thinking along the same lines as TonTon, which might upset him somewhat!

                                        I can't bring myself to vote Labour in East Newcastle, where they will definitely win. So I'm waiting to see who the Greens put up: all Duncan's arguments about why I should vote for them anyway are convincing, but they have a handful of very strange people I've met on the Left on Tyneside and if it's one of them I mibbe won't.

                                        If I lived where I work, I would not only vote for them,, but be actively campaigning, which I maybe will via work if I can find some colleagues/students to join in. The Green candidate in Sunderland Central is excellent all round.

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                                          #45
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                                          This is the first election I'm going to be voting in from abroad, and I'm a little confused about the process. I'd like to participate because my old constituency seems to be pretty marginal.

                                          I've applied online for my vote (they tell me that Wandsworth Council will get back to me to confirm it).

                                          And then I have the form to fill in to get my postal ballot. Simple enough, in theory. Except they ask what my current address where I'm registered to vote. And I can't work out what that is. I assume, but could be wrong, that it's my old address in Tooting. So, as we have a bunch of both expats, and political experts, here, hopefully someone can clarify before I fuck up my chance to help oust David Cameron.

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                                            #46
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                                            I do know an elections bureaucrat, I could ask him.

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                                              #47
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                                                #48
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                                                Have you filled in an "overseas elector" form?

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                                                  #49
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                                                  I was asked my opinion on the election for some polling agency over the phone today. If tomorrow's news reports a drop in support for UKIP I'll take the credit

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                                                    #50
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                                                    TonTon wrote: Have you filled in an "overseas elector" form?
                                                    I filled in the equivalent, online.

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