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    UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

    Just had a quick look at the UKIP website, and the closest thing they have to a "policies" section seems to be an "Issues" page which does, in fact, contain some quite concrete, and quite concrete-brained, proposals.

    I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise how awful they are, given that every time UKIP is mentioned in local news, other than for its candidates turning out to be fraudsters or other petty criminals, it's for the sheer obnoxiousness of the shit they spout, from the comically maniacal "gays cause flooding" to the sub-Clarksonite "cyclists should pay road tax".

    But nonetheless I was shocked by the sheer nastiness and insanity of some stuff which is on there in clear and forthright terms. Two examples:

    "- • Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependents for 5 years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), private education and private housing - they should pay into the pot before they take out of it.

    • Proof of private health insurance must be a precondition for immigrants and tourists to enter the UK."

    WTF? Is there any other country in the world which refuses entry to tourists on the grounds that they don't have private health cover? Quite apart from the sheer nastiness of it, have they thought through the impact on the UK tourism industry? And is there any other country in the world which refuses access to its state education system to the children of expat workers doing inbound secondments?

    These people are seriously fucking round the bend with their nasty nationalist siege mentality idiocy.

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    UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

    Sensible policies for a happier Britain!

    Sadly, there are enough idiots who will vote for this mob of goons for them to keep intruding on the national consciousness.

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      #3
      UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

      If we're lucky, the BBC might mention that you can't do what UKIP want and keep access to the Single Market.

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        #4
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        Well, surely we can rely on the BBC's notorious left-wing bias for that.

        Oh, wait.

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          #5
          UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

          Maybe Nick Robinson will come on and tell us perception is what matters or something.

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            UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

            Well, my perception is that Nick Robinson's a twat, if that helps.

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              #7
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              How exactly would you get private health insurance that you could use in the UK if you weren't already a resident?

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                UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

                Hopefully we'll hear more from Paul Nuttall in the next week as he is the true face of the party: incoherent, shouting, unable to answer a direct question and tying his own noose with not at all gay abandon.

                Farage seems immune to everything, he's got that Boris Johnson shield of invulnerability that blinds ordinary people to what a fucking cunt he is.

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                  #9
                  UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

                  You get the occasional chink of just what a bully Farage can be though. Even when tossed some fairly regulation half-volleys outside off-stump by Nick Robinson last night, he was petulant, petty and over-personal.

                  The fear is that Robinson's such a half-wit you fear many viewers would take Farage's side.

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                    #10
                    UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

                    Anecdotally from the door step:

                    * voters aren't embarrassed by them, in the way that they were by admitting to any support for BNP

                    * immigration is the issue, people aren't mentioning the EU more than barely or other policies at all, although

                    * they're possibly trying to rationalise/ hide that by talking about anti-establishment and the corruption of the bigger parties

                    * NF's meeting at Dudley Town Hall on Friday is sold out. Although expect spoiling stunts by Nikki Sinclaire and/ or Hope not Hate

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                      Because the Euro elections are on a "party list" PR basis, and individual MEPs don't represent individual constituents in any real sense, it's pointless attacking UKIP candidates as being batshit crazy. A bit like Tories in the Home counties at general elections, they could field sheep wearing rosettes as candidates and if people vote for the party, they will be duly elected.

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                        #12
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                        How do the other parties select their lists? I agree it's a shit system but LP members get a modicum of a say (basically, the incumbents get the top places on the list, then there's a proper vote for the rest. We've got a decent leftie on at No3 in London as a result)

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                          #13
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                          Green candidates were chosen by ballot following hustings.

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                            #14
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                            A bit like ours, then, without the incumbent built-in dominance. Would be interested to know how UKIP did it.

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                              #15
                              UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

                              Jean Lambert (from your manor-ish) is standing again. Our #2 is a vet in Islington.

                              PS while you're in, good luck to the Os play-off bid. Hope your daughter enjoys it

                              PPS is sometime wunderkind Johnny Gorman still there?

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                                Someone else, of this parish, and of our manor, is standing in the local elections too for your mob.

                                But anyway, back to UKIP being cunts...

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                                  #17
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                                  Excellent news from Waltham Forest

                                  If we must, this recent interview exchange is sadly typical:

                                  BBC: So, what about your manifesto contradicting itself as well as what Nigel said on HIGNFY?

                                  Paul Nuttall: Oh, don't worry about that. Our office will have a new website live any day now.

                                  BBC: Will it detail on housing/ education/ defence/ energy?

                                  PN: There's no need. It's a single issue election!

                                  As some of NF's more coherent ex-colleagues (Sinclaire, Marta Andreeasen) have said, the vagueness is deliberate for two reasons. Detail is potentially embarrassing and the man-in-pub schtick has to be kept simple. Even simpler than other parties' message...

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                                    #18
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                                    To Rogin: an open-list system would be better, ie voters can rank the candidates rather than just party members.

                                    Bit unwieldy in seven or nine member constituencies though.

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                                      One of our local UKIP candidates last time round (don't know if he's on the party list this time) was a local publican whose pub kept getting shut down for things like failing food and hygiene inspections, noise abatement complaints (he liked to host live unlicensed outdoor jazz parties in his beer garden until the wee hours) and failing to renew his license to sell alcohol to the public. Almost all of this "red tape" he used to bitterly blame on Brussels.

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                                        #20
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                                        I've just been to a protest outside The Sage in Gateshead. NF speaking to a gathering throng (not sold out, but it is a huge venue).

                                        I was struck by the 'lower-middle class at play' appearance of the attendees- barbour jackets, spring tans, open-necked shirts.

                                        Unfortunately the real scum arrived to bait our protest (a dozen or so EDL).

                                        A huge black bentley in the car park stood out a mile. The owner was back at the car as we were leaving. I think he may have been getting nervous about its paintwork.

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                                          #21
                                          UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

                                          Fleas on fleas...

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                                            #22
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                                            In a blow for Mr Farage, Hans-Olaf Henkel, a former president of the German Federation of Industries and a founder member of Alternative fuer Deutschland (AfD) has ruled out working with Ukip despite previous hints from the party's youth wing that alliance was possible.

                                            "I'll tell you what we're not going to do. We're not going to go with Ukip because they want to dissolve the EU, which is not our programme, and their immigration policy looks ridiculous," he told the Local.de website.

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                                              #23
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                                              What a nice chap.

                                              http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10785963/Ukip-posterboy-suspended-after-claiming-Miliband-not-British.html

                                              Messages on his Twitter account described the Prophet Mohammed as a “pedo” and say Islam is “an evil organisation respecting a prophet who was a pedo [sic].”
                                              He said Ed Miliband, the son of a Jewish refugee, is “Polish and not British”.
                                              One message read: “Miliband is not a real Brit. I hope he never gets to be PM! He was only born here.” He added: “I believe in being British. It is earned through generations of existence not through birth.”
                                              Another message read: “I was born and grew up in Africa. Please leave Africa for the Africans. Let them kill themselves off.”
                                              Another said: “Most Nigerians are generally bad people.” Another message said: “Enoch Powell was right!”

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                                                #24
                                                UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

                                                I've never met a nice Rhodesian...

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                                                  #25
                                                  UKIP's actual specific policy proposals

                                                  You'd think they're just a collection of thinly-veiled racists.

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