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    #26
    Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
    The daughter was visiting but he was living there according to the news. Channel Four News also said that countries leave retired spies alone, if they've stopped working. A gentleman's agreement or honour amongst thieves. This would suggest he was working again and as he'd moved to Salisbury that's adding to what's being implied.
    My ex-army Major boss’s reaction was “there are few things lower than a double agent” and I’m inclined to agree with him, tbh.

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      #27
      Horrible for his daughter, though.

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        #28
        I’ve asked the Russian Embassy on Twitter, but they just posted a video of Putin playing football.

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          #29
          Originally posted by MsD View Post
          My ex-army Major boss’s reaction was “there are few things lower than a double agent” .
          A man wearing plastic soled desert boots? Regiments have disbanded for less.

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            #30
            Every main UK newspaper except, surprisingly, the Daily Star (oh and the FT, if you want to categorise it as such) features a photo of Yulia Skripal on the front page today.

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              #31
              I noticed that. If she had been poisoned while collecting A level results they would probably have printed special souvenir supplements.

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                #32
                The implications of what I've read is that this is more of a message to others that MI5 / CIA can't protect you.
                This is also why any argument that the the Russians have made a mistake by adopting similar MO to before are wrong-headed. It's good for them if it's obviously them.

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                  #33
                  There was an interesting comment by Misha Glenny on the Today programme this morning. He said it's absolutely unprecedented for the Secret Services on either side to target a person who has been involved in a spy exchange (since that would mean there's no reason for anyone to take part in another one).
                  Last edited by Nefertiti2; 07-03-2018, 10:01.

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                    #34
                    Originally posted by Ginger Yellow View Post
                    ?

                    I'm sure Russia is quaking after our robust response to the Litvinenko murder.
                    That was my first thought, too. The acting Home Secretary back then initially - and very publicly - ruled out an inquiry on the grounds that this would 'damage important relations with Moscow'.

                    Forget who that was now...

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                      #35
                      Nef, did Glenny say anything as to whether that gentlemen's agreement still applies if an exchanged spy once again becomes active? As AE notes above, the implication is that that is what happened here.

                      Though it is equally possible that neither side is as bound by convention as they once were, especially given the number of "private" agencies now in operation.

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                        #36
                        Snitches get stitches.

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                          #37
                          Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                          Nef, did Glenny say anything as to whether that gentlemen's agreement still applies if an exchanged spy once again becomes active? As AE notes above, the implication is that that is what happened here.

                          Though it is equally possible that neither side is as bound by convention as they once were, especially given the number of "private" agencies now in operation.

                          It's reported here
                          essentially he thinks it's still very unlikely that the Intelligence agencies directly got involved, and that it's more likely to be someone else who was being targetted by Skripal who may have been working for a Private Intelligence Agency and/or against the interests of one of the oligarchs or gangsters capable of such an thing

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                            #38
                            Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                            Nef, did Glenny say anything as to whether that gentlemen's agreement still applies if an exchanged spy once again becomes active? As AE notes above, the implication is that that is what happened here.

                            Though it is equally possible that neither side is as bound by convention as they once were, especially given the number of "private" agencies now in operation.
                            That's what he said on Channel Four News UA, they remain untouched unless they become active.

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                              #39
                              https://twitter.com/bbcmonitoring/status/971730191948177408?s=21

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                                #40
                                She also took a swipe at Boris Johnson's warning to Russia this week, saying the foreign secretary was known for his "unpredictable antics" and was "an infant in a man's suit".
                                Clearly "a cunt in twat's clothing" doesn't translate.

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                                  #41
                                  https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/971714818104315904

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                                    #42
                                    Apparently he was working for his former MI6 handler.

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                                      #43
                                      No, he was Russian, working for the British.

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                                        #44
                                        To be .more precise He was russian, and he was a spy, for two countries at once.

                                        That Russian Newsreader is terrifying. They're not even trying to hide that they're a gangster state any more.

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                                          #45
                                          A double-agent using a nerve agent. Presumably that's a triple-agent.

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                                            #46
                                            https://twitter.com/skynews/status/972157346519564289?s=21

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                                              #47
                                              Russian exile Nikolai Glushkov found dead at his London home

                                              https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...y_to_clipboard

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                                                #48
                                                Thread title keeps giving me a Baccara earworm

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                                                  #49
                                                  I have walked past the bench where they found him many a time, it's weird to think that Salisbury is suddenly the centre of an international spy story.

                                                  My mother is put out because she couldn't go to St Thomas church on Sunday because of the police cordon.

                                                  And if you were aiming to poison someone with a chemical weapon, why do it a few miles away from the one place in the country that is chock full of people who know all about the use, chemistry and treatment of them?

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                                                    #50
                                                    Originally posted by Eggchaser View Post
                                                    And if you were aiming to poison someone with a chemical weapon, why do it a few miles away from the one place in the country that is chock full of people who know all about the use, chemistry and treatment of them?
                                                    Because you can?

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