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    Yesterday's school shooting, yet another one with a domestic violence connection.

    Rampaging through a small Northern California town, a gunman took aim on Tuesday at people at an elementary school and several other locations, killing at least four and wounding at least 10 before he was fatally shot by the police, the local sheriff’s office said.

    There were at least seven separate shooting scenes in or near Rancho Tehama Reserve, an unincorporated community of about 1,500 people, Phil Johnston, assistant sheriff of Tehama County, told reporters. The gunman, later identified as Kevin Janson Neal, 44, entered the elementary school but was unable to get into the classrooms because school officials had heard gunshots outside the building and locked the doors, he said.

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    Trump has now deleted his totally heartfelt tweet, in which he sent condolences to Texas after this shooting in California.

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    I really hate this thread. Nothing good comes out of it. But, it must continue.

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    Fucking hell. to do that trick, you're supposed to use a dinky little saturday night special and a big telephone directory, Not a fucking 50 caliber Monstrosity that needs to be moved from place to place in a wheelbarrow, and a 200 page hardback. Its not the fucking cardboard that stops the bullet, it's the hundreds and hundreds of pages. I think it's very clear that they didn't do a trial run

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    A fucking Desert Eagle, Jesus Christ. And in front of their kid.

    Firearms and stupidity is a horrible combination.

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    There is a bit of hearsay from a friend of mine whose family live in Jacksonville. Apparently, they qualified for the football, so the whole town/city/local area, are pissed/drunk as fuck, and when that happens, they shoot guns. So, 8 traffic signals were brought down.

    I love Florida.

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    Congratulations America, the GOP, Trump, and the NRA.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/3....google.co.uk/

    (Next door county to Columbine High School, or certainly in the greater Denver area, if I'm not mistaken)

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    Highlands Ranch is essentially adjacent to Columbine.



    Aurora is about 15 miles north.
    Last edited by ursus arctos; 31-12-2017 at 16:48.

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    I wouldn't draw any particular conclusions from that. Gun laws in Colorado may be lax, but I don't think they're especially so by US standards. Denver is a big city with a lot of poorly planned sprawl, and that's the kind of place where young men are more likely to be angry, alienated, and unnoticed, but lots of our cities are like that.

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    Yes, that is 11 in first 23 days of January 2018 (a number of which were not school days)

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    I read and hear about shootings every week in Las Vegas, but that number is utterly astounding.

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    The American Right are looking away, mostly at knife crime in London. I wonder why that could be.

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    Via our Vegas Correspondent

    A judge on Friday ordered the Las Vegas Review-Journal and The Associated Press to destroy their copies of an autopsy report for an Oct. 1 mass shooting victim, siding with the privacy concerns of the victim’s widow.
    I don’t know what they are hiding, but they are clearly hiding something

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    It's a bad ruling. It gives conspiracy theorists a field day, as you note, and also allows privacy to be a pretext for, say, concealing evidence of a tardy police response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
    It's a bad ruling.
    Sorry Satch, but YOU THINK?

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    Fortunately for you lot, I wrote a 12 paragraph 'precis' about this last night, and then deleted it, because... it's not a conspiracy, it's more about what should be allowed in the public sphere... stuff.

    There is probably a really shit reason for the whole thing, but, I choose to believe that it is because the police person's family are looking for cash.

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    There is an active shooting, ongoing at a school in Florida. 20 injured, suspect at large.

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    Hours after the NRA tweeted about buying your Valentine a gun.

    Still, thoughts and prayers will change everything.

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    What's worse is one kid tweeted that he was hiding under a desk, and locked in a classroom, and the journalistic vultures descended on his timeline, not fucking one of them spelling his name correctly, WHEN IT WAS ALREADY WRITTEN DOWN.

    OK, that isn't worse.

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    CNN reports 16 dead

    Suspect is a former student

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    110 miles from where I teach but it feels a lot closer, especially as I was in a classroom when the kids were dying.

    It seems to have been prolonged, starting outside the school then moving inside.

    This and Orlando in my state in just the last two years. But Florida will remain a pro-gun state and I know from past experience that many of my students will largely regurgitate second amendment waffle if I try to start a debate on gun laws in a lesson.

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    Were kids aware of it as it was happening, Satchmo? I can't imagine what it feels like to be a teacher when something like this happens.

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