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    Yup

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      Sky high prices for sky high seats

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        Rules about seats having to be under cover could sink the Argentina-Uruguay-Paraguay 2030 bid before it's even got started.

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          Fingers crossed...

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            USA 1994, all those NFL stadia.

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              Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Post
              Have we covered (and is this the place for ) the lunacy that is Ekaterinburg's stadium for 2018 ? ;



              Bleachers built outside Russian stadium to appease FIFA
              Never mind how bad the view is, that looks like it'll collapse in the first high wind that comes along. And god help you if there's a thunderstorm and you're sitting in the middle of that giant lightning conductor.

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                As part of their on-going investigation into FIFA, the Swiss authorities have now opened a formal investigation of both Jerome Valcke and Nasser al-Khelaïfi (president of PSG and BeIn Sports) for corruption relating to the award of World Cup television rights. The BeIn offices in Paris have been raided.

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                  Good news! The FA has decided that Qatar is a fit and proper country to do business with!

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                    Game recognize game

                    (Possible new fifa motto there)

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                      With the current racism and child abuse controversy. I am surprised Qatar isn't giving the FA a wide berth?

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                        I guess both sides mutually decided that the others were people they could do business with.

                        Incidentally, TG, I've been meaning for weeks to answer the pertinent question you put in the World Cup thread asking whether or not people like myself boycotted London 2012 in protest at Britain's role in the Iraqi War. It's not an easy question to answer, which is why I want to do it in a considered manner, when time permits.

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                          Take your time IMP.

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                            How is the November-December schedule going to work? You get no preparation before the tournament and the English league will want to resume on Boxing Day, just 8 days after the proposed final date of December 18th.

                            The tournament will presumably lose its rest days in order to condense to 28 days, or they will have to play 4 games a day in the group stage.

                            Situations like Spain this year where the coach gets a club job before the tournament would presumably be more common. If Real Madrid want Spain's coach (or anyone else's), he'll be gone.

                            Any injuries picked up a couple of weeks before the tournament won't have time to heal.

                            The season itself will feel very odd. Just when it might start to get interesting, they pause for 6-8 weeks. Champions League groups would have to be done by end of October, presumably. No club could play League Cup as well as Europe, unless the League Cup is held in the summer.

                            Nations League will also not run that that season, I assume, unless they are counted as four pre-World Cup friendlies.

                            Christmas shopping will be done very late, I assume, and the TV schedules are fucked because that's when the big shows like Karaoke Idol are normally shown.

                            Fans back home will find it harder to watch the games on big screens because it will be fucking freezing.
                            Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 13-07-2018, 13:07.

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                              Pardon me. Is the plan that Newport County, for example, might find they’re locked in battle with Forest Green around the same time that Brazil might be playing Argentina in a World Cup quarter-final? Or is everyone having a break during the tourno?

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                                Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                                How is the November-December schedule going to work? You get no preparation before the tournament and the English league will want to resume on Boxing Day, just 8 days after the proposed final date of December 18th.

                                The tournament will presumably lose its rest days in order to condense to 28 days, or they will have to play 4 games a day in the group stage.

                                Situations like Spain this year where the coach gets a club job before the tournament would presumably be more common. If Real Madrid want Spain's coach (or anyone else's), he'll be gone.

                                Any injuries picked up a couple of weeks before the tournament won't have time to heal.

                                The season itself will feel very odd. Just when it might start to get interesting, they pause for 6-8 weeks. Champions League groups would have to be done by end of October, presumably. No club could play League Cup as well as Europe, unless the League Cup is held in the summer.
                                The big Western European leagues will just have to consulte with all those others around the World for whom June/July is mid- rather than closed-season. They all have a lot of experience at dealing with such issues. Such minor outposts like Brazil, Sweden, Japan, USA/Canada.

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                                  I think it affects the English league more than the European mainland ones, who do not play over Xmas and New Year or have the same Cup traditions or summer sports. Those other leagues could just map the Brazil or USA structure across the winter, as you suggest.

                                  Non-league would have to keep playing in Nov-Dec because below a certain level, grounds are shared with cricket clubs and so on
                                  Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 13-07-2018, 17:39.

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                                    No league - the Premiership or a U-14 Rec League - should feel obligated to move their whole schedule to accommodate putting the World Cup in fucking Qatar just because a bunch of worthless blazers took bribes. The temerity of FIFA to still be continuing with this farce....

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                                      https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1017817448874115077

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                                        Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                                        How is the November-December schedule going to work? You get no preparation before the tournament and the English league will want to resume on Boxing Day, just 8 days after the proposed final date of December 18th.

                                        The tournament will presumably lose its rest days in order to condense to 28 days, or they will have to play 4 games a day in the group stage.

                                        Situations like Spain this year where the coach gets a club job before the tournament would presumably be more common. If Real Madrid want Spain's coach (or anyone else's), he'll be gone.

                                        Any injuries picked up a couple of weeks before the tournament won't have time to heal.

                                        The season itself will feel very odd. Just when it might start to get interesting, they pause for 6-8 weeks. Champions League groups would have to be done by end of October, presumably. No club could play League Cup as well as Europe, unless the League Cup is held in the summer.

                                        Nations League will also not run that that season, I assume, unless they are counted as four pre-World Cup friendlies.

                                        Christmas shopping will be done very late, I assume, and the TV schedules are fucked because that's when the big shows like Karaoke Idol are normally shown.

                                        Fans back home will find it harder to watch the games on big screens because it will be fucking freezing.
                                        Indeed I'm surprised the PL haven't kicked up more of a fuss about this.

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                                          Perhaps they're hoping somebody else will stop this madness first so they don't take the blame. But it's probably too late now.

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                                            Or they just keep going. Play chicken with FIFA with the clubs refusing to release their players.

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                                              Well, one doesn't build a team of overpriced, overpaid, cheating cry-baby lawyers overnight

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                                                Or they just keep going. Play chicken with FIFA with the clubs refusing to release their players.

                                                That would be an interesting and viable response, if unlikely.

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                                                  It's going to start publicly becoming a live issue this season as the first thing they've got to schedule is the qualifiers. Are they going to follow their normal cycle? If so then there's going to be a full year between the end of qualifying in November 2021 and the tournament itself.

                                                  Saw somewhere that the Premier League is expecting to not play any games between Bonfire Night and Boxing Day while the tournament is on. There'll be about half a dozen match rounds to reschedule then. That'll presumably mean an earlier start to the season - July 30th perhaps - and possibly a later finish. Could see the September / October international breaks being trimmed which would give space to shift European matches (November internationals would fall in the tournament boundary anyway). Could also see the League Cup not being run that season, it frees up a few more midweeks and you could achieve the same by removing FA Cup replays. Presumably none of these competitions are yet covered by sponsorship or telly contracts so that could all be priced in.

                                                  Question is how far down the pyramid is impacted. Championship will presumably stop for a while, maybe they'll resume before Christmas mind. League One is trickier, there's normally a player or two called up for the tournament - eg Sam Morsy was at Wigan last season and went to Russia with Egypt, but do you postpone the entire division for a couple of weeks for one or two players? This might become even more of an issue as Infantino was floating around the 48 team idea for Qatar again today. Non-league will be fine, other than the possibility of kick offs being rescheduled to avoid certain games.

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                                                    Maybe the lower league clubs will temporarily stop buying anyone who might be tied up in the World Cup?

                                                    I think the internationals have already been restructured, four friendly game slots moved from October back to June. Nations League presumably scrapped.

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