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    Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
    The FE mob show up below the line on that article I linked to. They are either real people or trolls who have gone so far undercover they've forgotten who they are, like a detective in a bad film.
    Lightmann is an absolute treasure.

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      Suspected car thief hides in Chris Kamara's garden.

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        Quiet your child!

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/education-41996972

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          https://twitter.com/davidicke/status/931518077459685376

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            US Navy pilot uses jet's contrails to draw knob and balls in the sky.

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/42032629

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              Surely the most WTF aspect of that article:
              WARNING: Some viewers may find images below offensive.

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                *Like*

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                  Originally posted by Ek weet nie View Post
                  It's Edmonton, man. Entertainment's at a premium.

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                    On FB a friend with Indian heritage is spouting unverified shite about there being an over representation of BAME presenters on BBC News. Looks like it could have come straight from Britain First. WT actual F?


                    Love the cock and balls contrail article btw. Nice touch for it to finish with -
                    It is not the first aircrew to pull such a stunt.
                    In August this year, an RAF fighter pilot drew a 35-mile penis on radars monitoring skies over Lincolnshire, England.

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                      Outstanding. The penultimate line in the article is absurd, too:
                      But one householder told KREM 2 she was upset about having to explain to her children what the vapour trail's shape represented
                      I mean, why the heck did she have to "explain" anything about it? It's just a vapour trail making pretty patterns, to the uninitiated. Surely they wouldn't be asking, "But Mommy, what exactly is that pattern the naughty plane man is drawing in the sky?"

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                        And surely if they do ask what everyone's looking at, and as a prudish parent you don't want your little ones' minds to be corrupted, your best response is a poker-faced, 'I've no idea, darling, I can't see what the fuss is about,' rather than, 'Well, dear, when a man and a woman love each other very much ...'

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                          "... he'll show her just how much by drawing a great big vase with two flowers in it, in the sky."

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                            https://apnews.com/9d8e5e8e9245412ab...dium=AP_Sports

                            The countdown to launch creeps closer and there’s still plenty for self-taught rocket scientist “Mad” Mike Hughes to do: Last-second modifications to his vessel. Pick up his flight suit. Leave enough food for his four cats — just in case anything happens.

                            Hughes is a 61-year-old limo driver who’s spent the last few years building a steam-powered rocket out of salvage parts in his garage. His project has cost him $20,000, which includes Rust-Oleum paint to fancy it up and a motor home he bought on Craig’s List that he converted into a ramp.

                            His first test of the rocket will also be the launch date — Saturday , when he straps into his homemade contraption and attempts to hurtle over the ghost town of Amboy, California. He will travel about a mile at a speed of roughly 500 mph.
                            ...
                            The daredevil/limo driver has been called a little bit of everything over his career — eccentric, quirky, foolhardy. Doesn’t bother him. He believes what he believes, including that the Earth is flat. He knows this thought is a conundrum, given that he’s about to launch himself into the atmosphere.

                            Down the road, he’s intending to build a rocket that takes him to space, so he can snap a picture and see with his own eyes.

                            “I don’t believe in science,” said Hughes, whose main sponsor for the rocket is Research Flat Earth. “I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air, about the certain size of rocket nozzles, and thrust. But that’s not science, that’s just a formula. There’s no difference between science and science fiction.”

                            This will actually be the second time he’s constructed and launched a rocket. He jumped on a private property in Winkelman, Arizona, on Jan. 30, 2014 , and traveled 1,374 feet. He collapsed after that landing — the G-forces taking a toll — and needed three days to recover.
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                            The location of the jump will be Amboy , a ghost town l in the Mojave Desert and along historic Route 66. The fictional town of Radiator Springs in the Disney movie “Cars” was loosely based on Amboy.

                            Hughes got permission from the town’s owner, Albert Okura, who purchased the rights to Amboy in 2005 for $435,000. The launch will take place on an air strip next to a dilapidated hangar.

                            “It is absolutely the most wacky promotional proposal I have had since I purchased the entire town in 2005,” said Okura, who’s also the founder of the Juan Pollo restaurant chain. “He is a true daredevil and I want to be part of it.”

                            On the morning of the launch, Hughes will heat about 70 gallons of water in a stainless steel tank and then blast off between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m. He plans to go about a mile — reaching an altitude of about 1,800 feet — before pulling two parachutes. They’re discouraging fans — safety issues — but it will be televised on his YouTube channel . He said he’s been in contact with the Federal Aviation Administration and the Bureau of Land Management.

                            Following his jump, he said he’s going to announce his plans to leap into the race for governor of California.

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                              He's going to be killed.

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                                "That's not science, that's just a formula" means that in this fight, I'm cheering on Death.

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                                  Originally posted by wiblflibl View Post
                                  On FB a friend with Indian heritage is spouting unverified shite about there being an over representation of BAME presenters on BBC News. Looks like it could have come straight from Britain First. WT actual F?
                                  Interesting, but maybe not that surprising IMO.

                                  In the 1990s, I lived in two very ethnically diverse areas of Leeds and Sheffield for nearly 7 years, a good quarter of my neighbours were British Asians/Asians, mostly Pakistani in the case of my immediate neighbours; In Sheffield where I lived (Burngreave/Pitsmoor), there were also Bangladeshis, Yemenis, Somalis, Afghans, Jamaicans etc. it was a very multiracial community but I’ll focus on the British Asians/Asians I knew in my area, as per your post wiblflibl.

                                  A good proportion of the British Asians/Asians (mostly the older ones) kept themselves to themselves within their ethnic/religious community but some, mostly the younger ones (UK born and not very religious), were far more “Westernised” (i.e all-night parties and wacky-baccy smoking sessions literally next door to us, two-up two-down terraced houses with very thin partition walls) although they rarely seemed to mix with the White British/Europeans or with other Whites in the area (hardly any non-UK Europeans or White Commonwealth people in that area but quite a few Chileans – or people of Chilean extraction, sons/daughters – in the ‘hood, “The Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire” having welcomed 100s of Chileans after the bloody Pinochet coup of 1973, under a special scheme set up by the Chile Solidarity campaign; some of them subsequently returned to Chile of course but many stayed in the Sheffield area, eg their children).

                                  They were about my age (28-35), so I befriended some of them, little by little, it wasn’t easy, they were clearly reluctant at first but maybe they simply weren’t too keen on me. But I had a juke-box, threw wild parties etc. so we had some common hell-raising ground. We then had many interesting chats, went out together a few times etc. (There were some fantastic traditional curry houses –no alcohol, BYOB– in that part of Sheffield, the jewel in the crown being the legendary Mangla, dirt cheap and scrummy scran – I still dream of their insanely delicious Ras malai… I always felt like I was robbing them when it came to payign the bill, so I’d tip them generously, was open till 3 or 4 am at weekends, unbelievable place.)

                                  In short, it turned out that these younger Asians resented the older Asian generation for being a bit racist, anti-immigration etc. The older Asians’ main grievances were mostly cultural (they didn’t feel very British and even less European, for a number of reasons, religious or lifestyle-related) and economical (eg they thought the area “was going downhill” due to what they perceived as high levels of immigration locally, including from the Sub-continent, also bad feelings against newly-arrived immigrants, many from Africa – refugees/asylum seekers – and bemoaned the stagnation of property prices which made selling or simply borrowing -eg to build a bigger kitchen, or an extension to accommodate their growing family- very tricky, as there was lots of negative equity in the 1990s, made worse by the various endowment scandals of course).

                                  There was naturally a strong sense of cultural pride and intergenerational solidarity with their elders emanating from the young British Asians I befriended but they were also clearly torn between two cultures, two identities and whilst that dual heritage provided them with a great cultural richness and they derived strength from the duality, it also created an existential angst, a strong frustration or even disaffection maybe, a malaise probably borne out of a lack of belonging.

                                  At times, there was also more than a hint of racism directed at the local Black community (whom they’d gone to school with, at the then notorious Earl Marshall comp, at the time one of the most dysfunctional high schools in England, with some serious discipline and educational issues – eg 2nd-3rd lowest GCSE pass rate in the country for several years running – and the school regularly made national headlines under the leadership of “radical educationalist” Chris Searle, until David Blunkett intervened and precipitated Searle’s exit).

                                  In other words, there was overt resentment and a degree of tension between communities, in itself hardly a scoop, the same happens the world over, but it felt relatively benign (it was an inner-city area so you had violence and gang problems, even the odd murder or shooting in broad daylight, but it was all drugs related AFAIK and there was little overt violence between communities).

                                  And if it felt benign, it was because it was self-contained, muted, as there was no people’s agora, no forum where you could “let rip”. But tensions were simmering under the surface, community cohesion was starting to feel strained and you sensed that with a powerful outlet, things would change, voices would be heard and clash, opinions would be expressed angrily, and whole spheres of the societal debate over equality, representation etc. would run the risk of essentially being defined along racial/ethnic or religious lines. And that outlet was around the corner of course: the t’Internet.

                                  But let’s go back to your friend with Indian heritage ranting on FB agst what he sees as an over representation of BAME presenters on BBC news. What he wrote, however counter-intuitive his opinion, may just be the online manifestation and encapsulation of the mutation we’ve seen in the last two decades, namely a radicalisation of positions in all communities, views becoming increasingly entrenched (esp. when expressed through the prism of social media) as society becomes more diverse and life more complex and competitive, the fragmentation of society effectively pitting groups/communities against each other etc.

                                  (of course it would be invidious and plain stupid to single out a particular community on this one, all communities/groups/etc. behave and react pretty much the same way in the same sort of environment, IMO anyhow – I strongly believe in structuralism)

                                  We’ve seen with Brexit that a number of predominantly Asian wards voted Leave, often wards made up of socio-economic groups CDE (in keeping with the White British vote), for a variety of reasons. This is an interesting read from the LSE:

                                  The British Asian vote for Brexit contains a few surprises

                                  and

                                  Why did South Asians vote for Brexit?

                                  Also:

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCP0...utu.be&t=5m42s

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5lO...utu.be&t=7m11s
                                  Last edited by Pérou Flaquettes; 20-11-2017, 21:33.

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                                    That was a good post Kev.

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                                      Not as bad as using them to detect bombs, I guess.

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                                        Are we sure that they are bent tent pegs and not an amazing new device developed by a politically-connected entrepreneur for which the authorities paid 50K or so?

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                                          Originally posted by Gerontophile View Post
                                          That was a good post Kev.
                                          What he said. Interesting stuff indeed.

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                                            This story completely surprised me.

                                            28% of new cars have no spare tire.

                                            Never thought "make sure car has spare tire" would be included in my new car checklist.

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                                              Originally posted by Cal Alamein View Post
                                              Never thought "make sure car has spare tire" would be included in my new car checklist.
                                              Definitely on our list for the next car. Had to use one of those repair/inflate kits on Mrs Flibl's Ford Fiesta and it didn't work. Called the recovery truck and he said the kits very rarely work, but he managed to re-inflate the tyre with his professional version. Enough to get us home, about three miles, but it was flat again by morning. Recovery guy escorted us home as he wasn't confident his pro version would last the distance.

                                              Then we had to buy another of those kits as apparently they are a legal requirement for cars with no spare (UK).

                                              Never again!

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                                                Got snows put on my new vehicle last week, and - at the very, very last second - remembered that it has an elaborate tire pressure monitoring system that YOU CAN"T TURN OFF.
                                                So, I had to get monitor 'tabs' put on all four new rims or I'd spend the entire winter listening to the annoying chime every time I started up, with the big yellow idiot lights always on, showing that all four tires were flat. Ugh.

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                                                  Why wouldn't the monitoring system recognize tire pressure in snow tires?

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                                                    Ah. I bought a set of winter rims (steel, as opposed to the summer aluminum rims) for the snow tires. You need to then buy the sensors for winter rims/tires set. The salt in winter really eats at the aluminum, so most people buy a set of cheap steel rims for their snows to sit on.

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