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    #51
    I've been told that there are still niches when a copter can get you data that the satellites can't, but these aren't the most trustworthy people I know.

    https://twitter.com/GQMagazine/status/1137079278586290176

    Six months later, the auditors still couldn't offer a final number. The $500,000 figure is what they've managed to sift from a single checking account going back to 2012, officials said at the meeting, prior to which detailed bank records weren't available. But that particular account was opened in 1997, and Sister Mary Margaret was there a decade before that. “Does it go back ten years?” Meyers asked at the meeting. “Or 15 years? Or 20 years or more?”

    And was that the only account? Why would it be? One parent told friends she hunted through old checks and found at least five more account numbers she considered suspicious. And what about the cash, all those fives and tens and twenties swirling through casino nights and festivals and raffles, thousands upon thousands of dollars in small bills?

    At the meeting, Marge Graf, the diocesan lawyer, conceded cash was “a significant other issue.” Yet she also seemed genuinely surprised to see so many angry parents show up. As several of those parents pointed out that night, a layperson who looted a half-million from a school would be in handcuffs, and probably perp-walked for the cameras, too. But two nuns allegedly do it, and no one even calls the police? St. James informed the Torrance Police Department, but not until six months after the fact, and initially declined to file a criminal complaint. (That changed 11 days after the meeting. Moreover, bank fraud is a federal crime, and the alleged misappropriation is possibly being investigated as such. In April, a spokesperson for the archdiocese referred me to a prosecutor in the Major Frauds Section in the office of the U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California. That office declined to comment. In any case, by May, no one had been charged with any crime.)

    The matter was to be handled internally. Church auditors, and independent auditors hired by the church, would investigate, the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet would make restitution, and Sister Mary Margaret and Sister Lana would suffer “canonical sanctions,” a phrase uttered with tremendous ferocity but amounting to, according to Graf, really strict probation, albeit without the inconvenience of court supervision and a criminal record.
    Last edited by ursus arctos; 12-06-2019, 18:31.

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      #52
      Why the hell does anyone tolerate the idea of Canon Law sovereignty. See also the hierarchy not passing on cases of abuse to law enforcement.

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        #53
        The article also includes a description of how they got away with terminating the contract of a lay teacher after she had treatment for breast cancer due to a very broad interpretation of religious exemptions to employment law.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Benjm View Post
          I don't remember being showered in cash for my Communion (1970s, England). What a bleeding swizz.
          I got a small paperback entitled "My Little Mass and Communion Book". I still have it,

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            #55
            Perhaps you were destined to spend much of your life in Spain?

            I thought you were Asturian for years, btw.

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              #56
              Adopted guaje...

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                #57
                And Spain's not as Catholic as it seems.

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                  #58
                  I always found that fascinating.

                  The same people can be very devout and non-observant, depending on the situation. One gets some of that everywhere, but it struck me as especially pronounced in parts of Spain

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Sporting View Post

                    I got a small paperback entitled "My Little Mass and Communion Book". I still have it,
                    I think I got a Missal and a souvenir candle. I managed to snap the candle in the car on the way home.

                    Love Jesus & Mary/Dislike Priests seems to be a popular attitude in major Catholic cultures.

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                      #60
                      I love the illustration that makes them look like a pair of Unabomber nuns.

                      "The Protestant Reformation and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race."

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                        #61
                        Jesus and the Bible made me a socialist/communist is a pretty common attitude on the Left in Catholic countries, and although I've been to one Mass in ten years, would certainly do for me too. We read and discussed the Catholic Worker quite a bit in religion class, which is testament to how liberal the Church can be in San Francisco. Well that and me saying "I don't want to be confirmed" and nobody really having a problem with that.





                        Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                        I always found that fascinating.

                        The same people can be very devout and non-observant, depending on the situation. One gets some of that everywhere, but it struck me as especially pronounced in parts of Spain
                        I was watching a Flemish TV show the other week where a gay couple obsessed over who would be their child's godfather. Apparently not christening their child wasn't even thought of.

                        My wife is basically an atheist and didn't want to christen our son, so we didn't. The only person who has really cared about this either way is my mom, who isn't even a Catholic. Yet every time the Bru is unwell we keep finding prayer cards under his bed or that he's been sprinkled with holy water. I personally find this hilarious and sweet. Maybe my mother-in-law didn't put up a fight because he was baptised when we were out on a date night or something.

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