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    https://twitter.com/mishtal/status/1081199317531148288

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      Here is a long piece about Riley her selective concern about antisemitism, and Gnasher Jew and mishtal the account she has praised so highly
      In July of last year, as he concluded his excellent piece on Labour’s proposed Code of Conduct on antisemitism, Brian Klug, senior research fellow at St Benet’s Hall, Oxford, made an appeal — which…

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        That's a good piece. I shared it on FB and two friends messaged me privately to say they agreed but didn't want to post (even though my post was inner circle friends only). Retweeted it and immediately lost 3 followers. Good.

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          That article, amongst many other things, makes a strong case for twitter being shut down as amn irredeemable waste of fucking time. Politics on twitter seems to resemble nothing less than my daughter's primary school class' relentless friendship dramas crossed with toxic bile. Urgh.

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            That does a really good job of exposing the fascist links of some of the "anti-semitism campaigners" and it presents a clear case that Rachel Riley is not acting in any sort of good faith (if she's praising Sussex Friends of Israel for example). Could have stuck the boot into Pollard a bit more though.

            There's a fair bit of reaching in some of the other bits that it'd be stronger without (including me, for the sick bucket, when the corbyn hagiography gets brought out).

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              Thanks

              Another piece on How the so called "Campaign against Antisemitism" a far right groupuscule very close to the Gatestone Institute and rejected by mainstream jewish organisations untilrecerntl were taken at face value during the anti-semitism crisis of last summer - and happily threw around accusations of holocaust denial
              It is vital that anti-Semitism is called out, wherever and whenever it occurs, regardless of which organisation, individual, political...

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                You know, I'd like to think I'm pretty well-informed and media savvy, but aside from the odd allusion to it on the Twitters, this Rachel Riley thing has completely passed me – and I suspect the overwhelming majority of people in Britain - by. Called to mind, this, to be honest.
                A ROW about an obscure thing normal people do not care about has been raging in the Twittersphere for almost a week.

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                  Haha E10, that was one of mine! (Written months ago but only just used for some reason)

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                    Great piece By Michelle Alexander Author of The New Jim Crow- a great book about the incarceration of African American men.

                    https://twitter.com/MairavZ/status/1086763847963164672

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                      This about how two Jews who worked for Reagan and Bush then for Netanyahu created the antisemitic campaign against George Soros for Viktor Orbán is astonishing- and everyone interested in American Israeli Hungarian or British politics should read it.
                      How two Jewish American political consultants helped create the world’s largest anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.

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                        Finkelstein's career is a useful counter to the idea that toxic racism was introduced to the Republican Party by the current President.

                        Birnbaum is a good example of a PoS (non-retail edition).

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                          Benjamin Netanyahu's son is retweeting antismeitc smears about George Soros

                          https://twitter.com/NTarnopolsky/status/1087833601276891137

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                            Corbyn doesn't help himself, does he?

                            https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/new...corbyn-2492585

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                              Presumably he was asked about Williamson. What should he have said? The same, but added that Williamson was right to apologise for signing the petition and should do his research before intervening in such matters? If he said he thought Williamson was anti Semitic he'd have to suspend him.

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                                Originally posted by Etienne View Post
                                Presumably he was asked about Williamson. What should he have said? The same, but added that Williamson was right to apologise for signing the petition and should do his research before intervening in such matters? If he said he thought Williamson was anti Semitic he'd have to suspend him.
                                I don't know. Honestly, it stinks that Williamson still has the whip - he's shown both that his political judgement is a liability and that he doesn't take antisemitism seriously.

                                The Gilad Atzmon petition wasn't an isolated incident, but also it's not really excusable - anyone who is involved in Palestinian solidarity orgs should be aware that Atzmon is an out-and-out fascist. He wrote an article suggesting Jewish antifascists who were beaten up by nazis at the Battle of Dover were the equivalent of Israeli settlers attacking indigenous people. London Palestine Action helped organise a picket of his gigs a couple of years back.

                                But Williamson has also defended other notorious antisemites - including Scott Nelson (a.k.a SocialistVoice) and George Galloway.

                                It's hard to know what Corbyn should say given all this. "Yes, Chris Williamson is an antisemite and it's an embarrassment he's still in the party"? "No, Chris Williamson isn't an antisemite, he just has terrible political judgement, mistakes sentimentality for solidarity and doesn't listen to people who point out he's defending noxious antisemites. Vote Chris Williamson for Derby."

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                                  [URL]https://twitter.com/aaronbastani/status/1098293715553185792?s=21[/URL]

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                                    Really recommend this long piece by Steven Salaita on his new job as a school bus driver and how he got there https://stevesalaita.com/an-honest-l...NmmGz0BeIfbWUk

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                                      [URL]https://twitter.com/chronometerj/status/1081193602318061573?s=21[/URL]

                                      or if the Jewish Chronicle says “Rich Jews are worried about Jeremy Corbyn taxing them more” that’s justified concern. If anyone else were to say it it would be (rightly) condemned as antisemitism.

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                                        I can’t remember if anybody has asked you, Nef, so I will. How the hell is UK Jewry so right-wing compared to US, and to a lesser extent, Canadian Jewry? This seems to have happened in about a fifty year span, as everything I’ve read (and certainly if you go by MP intake) has the Jewish vote going solidly Labour into the 70s.

                                        My guess is something along the lines of North American Jews being far more religiously liberal and them, being, well, an anamoly - a generally economically well-off group that consistently votes against its financial interest. But I’d like your take. Cheers.

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                                          That's a very good question Flynnie. Will pay it some thought.

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                                            Three things. Margaret Thatcher, Israel and how the Jewish Community is seen and reported on in Britain.

                                            Margaret Thatcher was Mp for Finchley and had a close relationship first with her Jewish Constituents, and then with the Immanuel jakobovits "Chief Rabbi" - is in fact only the chief rabbi of one Orthodox congregation "Chief Rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations of Great Britain and the Commonwealth" and represent only 40, 000 of the total Jewish community in the Uk about 250 000 practising jews, including Reform Jews- closest to the majority of American Jews.

                                            Reform Jews don't have a go-to person with a kippah and a long beard who looks good on TV. The Chief Rabbi gets a peerage and goes the House of Lords. Jonathan Sacks who took over from Jakobovits refused to go to Rabbi Hugo Gryn's funeral.

                                            Then there's Israel. For many ageing British Jews Israel is Florida, warm Climate a few hours flight away. Many people have relatives there . As israel has moved further to the right, the British jews have followed. many shared the anxieties of the second intifada and lost any sympathy for the Palestinian cause they might have had. The Labour party used to have strong links with the Israeli Labour Party, which in turn was not an implacable foe of Palestinian rights as it is now. but after the murder of Yitzhak Rabin the right has triumphed.

                                            The Jewish Chronicle in the YK is now an extremist pro Likud paper edited by Stephen Pollard, pro Brexit, and anti refugee. Pollard dismisses leftist pro Corbyn jews as "asajews" useful jews and worse. Leftist jews and secular jews like say tony Judt are locked out of the debate, Jews who support Corbyn dismissed as 'the usual bunch of anti-Semitism deniers" for those of us who are the children of Holocaust survivors that's extremely unsettling. But the right will stop at nothing. They call us Kapos .

                                            The Jewish Community is seen and reported on in Britain as basically the Chief Rabbi and the Jewish Chronicle. neither are representative of the majority of Jews in the UK.

                                            In the British census Jewishness is only recognised as a religion and not as an ethnicity. Sections of the Jewish community have opposed changing this.

                                            So the right drives out all opposition, in collusion with the media.

                                            Finally the Corbyn position on Palestine his connections with pro Palestine people and some either anti-semitic or depicted as such has completed the move to the Tories.
                                            Last edited by Nefertiti2; 25-02-2019, 07:43.

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                                              What does ''asajew' mean? Obviously I could search, but am wary of where I might end up. Ta!

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                                                A Jew with a hole in his heart?

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                                                  As a Jew, eg exactly what Pollard does but Pollard disagrees with them so he waves it off.

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                                                    Ah, I was being obtuse, cheers.

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