The history of Edmondstown golf club. I'm not sure what cork's jewish community was supposed to do.
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You want Jewish jokes? Here's Jewish jokes: http://www.awordinyoureye.com/
They're compiled by one of my old managers, a man I found "difficult" for work for.
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So Right wing Labour MP and Friend of Joan Ryan Siobhan McDonaugh was on Radio 4 this morning saying that "anti-capitalism is antisemitism" because Jews are likely to be rich capitalists. Not only does she show an extraordinary ignorance of Jewish and socialist history. From Karl Marx and Rosa Luxemburg to Kurt Eisner and Walter Benjamin, the Bund Vorwaerts, the ignorance is shows is criminal. In Britain it ignores the legacy of the Jewish left in and out of the Labour party. Eleanor Marx Leonard Woolf Manny Shinwell Ralph Miliband, Alf Dubs, Harold Pinter, Rhea Wolfson. it also appears to be in breach of the IHRA guidelines: "Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews"
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I think there's something to be said for the lack of a vibrant British Jewish culture turning this debate ever dumber. I find it difficult to believe anybody in the US Democratic Party could get away with saying such a thing, because, like, they know who Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky are and that they're Jewish.
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John mcternan even more right wing than McDonaugh if such a thing is possible pushing the same line about ( Jewish) David Graeber and the Occupy movement - is it conspiracy theory to suggest two right wing non Jews are getting together
[URL]https://twitter.com/michaelrosenyes/status/1102516123998846976?s=21[/URL]
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John Harris is also at it
[URL]https://twitter.com/johnrentoul/status/1102523430891671553?s=21[/URL]
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Strange when the left of the Labour party used to analyse the systemic failure of capitalism- often using the tools of Jewish political scientists or writers like Zygmaunt Bauman or Naomi Klein they are dismissed as Marxists. So It looks as though the aim is not to criticise capitalism at all.
Of course Tony Blair for whom John Rentoul shilled for many years was able to enrich himself from an immensely rich self serving elite who are also extremely antisemitic- the House of Saud.
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Posti think this is more strategic than that. This isn't just about getting rid of Corbyn. It's about silencing all criticism of capitalism.
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This, by the way, is really worth reading:
https://averypublicsociologist.blogs...-semitism.html
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Someone I've known for about 10 years who is a Jewish Labour Councillor in Merseyside and leading light in Jewish Voice for Labour has been suspended for making a weak pun which has been alleged to be anti-semitic. The full text of the speech is here, and it's a model of even-handedness. This is fucking ludicrous.
Obviously, the even more ludicrous Riley has rowed in against her; apparently, she has also had the temerity to use the Martin Niemoller poem using anti-zionism as the trope, as if the point of the poem is that the Jews must be defended at all times, rather than injustice must be defended, even if one isn't a member of a targeted group.
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In the meantime, a whole bunch of Labour MPs (many, perhaps most, non-Jewish) have written an open letter demanding that Jewish Labour Movement be regarded as "THE (my emphasis) legitimate representative of Jews in the Labour party". Yep, cos they all look and think the same don't they? More dangerous "self-hating Jew"/"wrong type of Jew" stuff.Last edited by E10 Rifle; 06-03-2019, 12:52.
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Indeed - the attack on a member of Jewish Voice for Labour is critical, as it's entire existence as an organisation made up _wholly_ of Jewish members of the Labour party (unlike the Jewish Labour Movement) who aren't going batshit about anti-semitism means they have to be attacked as self-hating to the point of being actually anti-semitic about, er, themselves. Because the only other analysis is that what divides these organisations is the issue of defending Palestinian rights, and that would never do to be a well-understood and reported on element of this.
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Sorry, I was being sarcastic, and it doesn't carry well on the interwebs.
Jeremy Corbyn is not an anti-semite and Bernie Sanders doesn't have a problem with women and black people. What they do have in common is that they are a threat for big money interests.
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The very excellent Rebecca Vilkomerson on the attacks on Ilhan Omar https://www.newsweek.com/ilhan-omar-...source=Twitter
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Excellent piece by Zionist Peter Beinert in the Guardian
As David Harris, head of the American Jewish Committee, put it last year: “To deny the Jewish people, of all the peoples on earth, the right to self-determination surely is discriminatory.”
All the peoples on earth? The Kurds don’t have their own state. Neither do the Basques, Catalans, Scots, Kashmiris, Tibetans, Abkhazians, Ossetians, Lombards, Igbo, Oromo, Uyghurs, Tamils and Québécois, nor dozens of other peoples who have created nationalist movements to seek self-determination but failed to achieve it.
Yet barely anyone suggests that opposing a Kurdish or Catalan state makes you an anti-Kurdish or anti-Catalan bigot. It is widely recognised that states based on ethnic nationalism – states created to represent and protect one particular ethnic group – are not the only legitimate way to ensure public order and individual freedom. Sometimes it is better to foster civic nationalism, a nationalism built around borders rather than heritage: to make Spanish identity more inclusive of Catalans or Iraqi identity more inclusive of Kurds, rather than carving those multiethnic states up.
Of course it’s theoretically possible to distinguish anti-Zionism from antisemitism, just as it’s theoretically possible to distinguish segregationism from racism,” writes Stephens. Just as virtually all segregationists are also racists, he suggests, virtually all anti-Zionists are also antisemites. You rarely find one without the other.
But that claim is empirically false. In the real world, anti-Zionism and antisemitism don’t always go together. It is easy to find antisemitism among people who, far from opposing Zionism, enthusiastically embrace it.
Before Israel’s creation, some of the world leaders who most ardently promoted Jewish statehood did so because they did not want Jews in their own countries. Before declaring, as foreign secretary in 1917, that Britain “view[s] with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people”, Arthur Balfour supported the 1905 Aliens Act, which restricted Jewish immigration to the United Kingdom.
And two years after his famous declaration, Balfour said Zionism would “mitigate the age-long miseries created for western civilisation by the presence in its midst of a Body [the Jews] which it too long regarded as alien and even hostile, but which it was equally unable to expel or to absorb”.Last edited by Nefertiti2; 07-03-2019, 07:41.
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