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    #26


    song using tweets from the revolution as lyrics. Played over 40 million time before being removed from Instagram

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      #27
      https://twitter.com/shayan86/status/1583868648262815745?s=61&t=dnuyaJD-LfRqNCK-5H-Sow

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        #28
        Demonstrations in Saqqez, Iranian Kurdistan where Jina (Mahsa) Amini’s is buried

        Some estimates 100 000

        https://twitter.com/BeriShalmashi/status/1585216351798366208?s=20&t=3XG0Dc_SuHGL4-43jejYTw

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          #29
          horrendous

          https://twitter.com/QasimRashid/status/1592173879493120001?s=20&t=LwYIgEwWivmMCh7nCFZ94w

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            #30
            It's a document issued by the parliament calling for judges who are hearing these cases to execute those coming to trial for protesting/organizing. There's no binding aspect to it. People have already been executed, so obviously it's horrible; representing it as thought 15K people are definitely condemned to execution feels sensationalist.

            ETA: And to be clear, I'm bringing this up because there's already been some pretty good evidence that other groups have become involved in the Iranian protests as a vehicle for their own interests, including the CIA. I don't think Qasim is a CIA plant by any means and I don't want to imply that; we need to try and think about who's pushing what and for which reasons.
            Last edited by scratchmonkey; 14-11-2022, 22:09.

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              #31
              Originally posted by scratchmonkey View Post
              It's a document issued by the parliament calling for judges who are hearing these cases to execute those coming to trial for protesting/organizing. There's no binding aspect to it. People have already been executed, so obviously it's horrible; representing it as thought 15K people are definitely condemned to execution feels sensationalist.

              ETA: And to be clear, I'm bringing this up because there's already been some pretty good evidence that other groups have become involved in the Iranian protests as a vehicle for their own interests, including the CIA. I don't think Qasim is a CIA plant by any means and I don't want to imply that; we need to try and think about who's pushing what and for which reasons.
              There's a meme being passed around on instagram saying that Iran plans to execute 15,000 people and rape all the women so they don't go to heaven. Part of that meme is to suggest that this is being ignored by the mainstream media.

              It never seems to occur to anyone that it might be being "ignored" by the media because the basis for these claims cannot be verified.

              The situation is very grim, but I have a hard time imagining they will just execute 15,000 people.

              Also, the thing about raping women so they don't go to heaven feels like an Islamophobic trope, although there's no crime I would put past fundamentalists (of any ideology or religion. Part of the appeal of fundamentalism is that it's a cover for all kinds of atrocities.)

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                #32
                According to the Iran Human Rights news group, there are around two dozen people who are facing charges punishable by death of the 15K that have been arrested thus far.

                ETA: The IHR report on the same parliamentary action: https://iranhr.net/en/articles/5578/

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                  #33
                  Originally posted by scratchmonkey View Post
                  According to the Iran Human Rights news group, there are around two dozen people who are facing charges punishable by death of the 15K that have been arrested thus far.

                  ETA: The IHR report on the same parliamentary action: https://iranhr.net/en/articles/5578/
                  Thanks for the correction...

                  At least I'm not the Prime Minister of Canada

                  https://twitter.com/Vinncent/status/1592628783848488963?s=20&t=Z86idFCidf0OjPSpGx-XLw
                  Last edited by Nefertiti2; 15-11-2022, 21:32.

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                    #34
                    Oil workers walk out https://nitter.it/omid9/status/1592540008635928577#m

                    (by the way, what is nitter? and how do I link it better?)

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                      #35
                      This Verify piece might be useful to share if any of our friends, or indeed Canadian prime ministers with no agenda or over-the-hill pop stars, share the misinfornation about 15,000 impending executions.

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                        #36
                        Nitter is another "defederated" Twitter alternative, like Mastodon.

                        That link works fine.

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                          #37
                          Originally posted by G-Man View Post
                          This Verify piece might be useful to share if any of our friends, or indeed Canadian prime ministers with no agenda or over-the-hill pop stars, share the misinfornation about 15,000 impending executions.
                          I get an "access denied" message on that link

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                            #38
                            I got a 404

                            Try this

                            https://www.verifythis.com/article/n...7-799872cbdef7

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                              #39
                              Nope, still Access Denied

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                                #40
                                Protests across Iran, led largely by women, have been demanding improvements to human rights and civil liberties in the country for weeks. The demonstrations began after a 22-year-old woman, Mahsa Amini, died in police custody after being arrested on accusations of improperly wearing hijab, a head covering that Iranian law requires women to wear while in public.

                                In the weeks since, human rights groups estimate more than 15,000 protesters have been detained by the Iranian government.

                                On Monday, several posts on social media went viral – including from celebrities like Peter Frampton, Sophie Turner and Viola Davis – claiming all 15,000 of those protesters had been sentenced to death, and warning of an impending mass execution.
                                Why isn’t this the lead story worldwide??? It would be a crime against humanity!!!Please add any superlative you can!!! pic.twitter.com/kclLS1bFOJ

                                — Peter Frampton (@peterframpton) November 14, 2022
                                THE QUESTION


                                Were 15,000 Iranian protesters sentenced to death?
                                THE SOURCESNo, 15,000 protesters were not sentenced to death. So far only one protester has received such a sentence. However, human rights groups warn that future sentences could be handed down without warning or due process.

                                Though an estimated 15,000 protesters have been detained in Iran, the posts shared on social media claiming that they have all been sentenced to death are inaccurate.

                                So far, reporting indicates only one person has actually received a death sentence in connection with the protests. Experts warn more could come eventually.

                                The viral posts, like those by Davis, cite a Newsweek article with a headline that previously read “Iran Protesters Refuse to Back Down as 15,000 Face Execution.”

                                The 15,000 number comes from estimates by the United Nations and the Human Rights Activists News Agency of how many total people have been detained in Iran in connection with the protests.

                                The Newsweek article previously claimed “the country's parliament overwhelmingly voted in favor of the death penalty for protesters.” On Tuesday, Nov. 15, Newsweek retracted its previous reporting and added a correction to its article.

                                This claim is based on a letter, reported by Iranian state media to have been signed by 227 Iranian lawmakers, that “asked [Iranian] judicial officials to consider severe punishments for all those involved” in what the letter says are “riots.”

                                According to state media, the letter read in part, “We, the representatives of this nation, ask all state officials, including the Judiciary, to treat those, who waged war [against the Islamic establishment] and attacked people’s life and property like the Daesh [terrorists], in a way that would serve as a good lesson in the shortest possible time.”

                                However, there are two issues with the characterization of this letter in the article and subsequent posts. For one, there is no indication that the letter explicitly calls for the death penalty.

                                The Newsweek article itself – replicating part of a CNN article published two days earlier – said “lawmakers added that such a punishment… the methods of which were not specified… ‘would show no leniency to anybody.’”

                                Secondly, parliament in Iran does not issue sentences. The letter was a broad request to the Iranian courts to treat protesters harshly; it was not itself any sort of binding action.

                                According to the Constitute Project, which tracks global constitutions, the judiciary is laid out as a separate branch of government in the Iranian Constitution.

                                Article 57 reads, “The powers of government in the Islamic Republic are vested in the legislature, the judiciary, and the executive powers, functioning under the supervision of the absolute wilayat al-'amr and the Leadership of the Ummah, in accordance with the forthcoming articles of this Constitution. These powers are independent of each other.”

                                Chapter XI further lays out the role of the judiciary as an “independent power.”

                                Despite parliament’s request not being an actual sentence, experts with the United Nations Human Rights Council called the letter’s attempt to influence the courts a “blatant violation of the separation of powers.”

                                The same group of experts, in an open letter, said that even without sentences yet, the sheer number of people being charged with crimes that could eventually carry the death penalty is concerning.

                                “Eight people were charged on 29 October by the Islamic Revolution Court… with crimes carrying the death penalty, namely ‘waging war against God,’” the letter read. “Two days later, the Tehran prosecutor announced that some 1,000 indictments had been issued in connection with recent ‘riots’ in Tehran province alone and that trials were scheduled in the Islamic Revolutionary Court for cases against a number of individuals.”

                                “We urge Iranian authorities to stop using the death penalty as a tool to squash protests and reiterate our call to immediately release all protesters who have been arbitrarily deprived of their liberty for the sole reason of exercising their legitimate rights to freedom of opinion and expression, association and peaceful assembly and for their actions to promote and protect human rights and fundamental freedoms through peaceful means,” the experts said.

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                                Groups like Iran Human Rights similarly fear a trend of quick, harsh punishments being handed out without due process.

                                “Evidence indicates that Islamic Republic authorities may be planning to carry out hasty executions. At least 20 protesters are currently facing charges punishable by death per official reports,” the group wrote in an article published to its website.

                                Iran Human Rights estimates there have been a total of 470 executions in Iran in 2022. Amnesty International estimated 314 in 2021, and 246 in 2020, evidence of a rapid upwards trend in capital punishment being used in the country.

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                                  #41
                                  I wonder if it is geo-blocked

                                  In any case, yet another example of Newsweek being willing to "publish" just about anything.

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                                    #42
                                    Khomeini's birthplace 9and now museum) was stormed and set on fire.
                                    https://twitter.com/simonmontefiore/status/1593521864780939264

                                    Down thread Sebag Montefiore and Simon Schama compare it to potentially the Bastille or the overthrow of Ceausescu

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                                      #43
                                      Morality Police to be disbanded.

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                                        #44
                                        Although some commentators describe such reports as misleading:

                                        https://twitter.com/arash_tehran/status/1599395316339703808

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                                          #45
                                          Thing is, removing a level of authority doesn't necessarily mean that the law won't still be enforced in the same violent and vigorous nature by another sector of law enforcement.

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                                            #46
                                            https://twitter.com/JasonMBrodsky/status/1599374307917934592?t=MOmaW8OhQfB2p_gtBKlLeg&s=19

                                            This appears to be the most common take on this. An attempt to divide the opposition.

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                                              #47
                                              https://twitter.com/IranIntl_En/status/1599372859926790150?t=GzpOmlDIZCuqiCRcdqf_Rw&s=19



                                              100 doesn't seem like a significant number but there's so little information coming out of Iran.

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                                                #48
                                                https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1599450160635195392?t=n4GY26ONdd3UVaXjsvxKdg&s=19

                                                This is the opposite end of the morality police statement.

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                                                  #49
                                                  Executed on 8 December according to multiple sources on Twitter.

                                                  https://twitter.com/HichkasOfficial/status/1600808609801465856?t=u18aiJHN6tx54K7oL92IRg&s=19

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                                                    #50
                                                    https://twitter.com/drninaansary/status/1601005799811452928?t=y-a2a1ewCDPxiK3WCE-cqA&s=19

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