Van attack in Finsbury Park, north London

[delicatemoth]

A van driver has ploughed into a crowd of worshippers leaving the mosque in Finsbury Park. Reports of serious injuries.

[delicatemoth]

The Mail referring to fucking Abu Hamza in their headline. Racists gloating about this in Muslims' mentions on Twitter.

[Sits]

Maybe people who commit crimes should simply be called "criminals" in future to avoid any misunderstanding, ethnic/religious bias or false aura of something more menacing. Just bloody criminals.

[Antepli Ejderha]

Police confirm one dead and eight inured. A man has been arrested at the scene, witnesses reported seeing other men jump out of the van.

Edit:

The man was arrested after being detained by members of the public, one of those was interviewed inn the BBC just now and he said it took half an hour for the police and ambulances to arrive.

[tee rex]

BBC and Guardian avoiding (so far) photos of the van, whereas international websites are telling the world about Pontyclun.

[Paul S]

BBC and Guardian avoiding (so far) photos of the van, whereas international websites are telling the world about Pontyclun.

Pontyclun? Or did you mean Portugal?

[Gerontophile]

The van was rented in Pontyclun.

[SouthdownRebel]

Ugh, not again. Thoughts with those caught up in this. Reading on the Graun's live blog that the driver, having been citizens-arrested, was protected from the understandably angry crowds by the Imam until the police arrived. Kudos to him if true.

[Antepli Ejderha]

Pontyclun? Or did you mean Portugal?

Photo of the van in guardian show it's from Pontyclun.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Oh for fuck's sake. It's a sign of changing times that it took the police half an hour to get there. Ten Years ago, I used to offer Chips to the policemen in the unmarked squad car parked across the road, after I would stumble out of the Old Triangle at three in the morning after spending the evening playing music.

Meanwhile in the US

[Ray de Galles]

Photo of the van in guardian show it's from Pontyclun.

I hope all the arseholes who "call upon the moderate Muslim community to condemn this outrage" will do the same to the moderate Welsh community today.

[My Name Is Ian]

Another eye-witness at the scene quoted on the Guardian live-blog stated that it took the police eight minutes to get there.

[Antepli Ejderha]

I hope all the arseholes who "call upon the moderate Muslim community to condemn this outrage" will do the same to the moderate Welsh community today.

On behalf of the people of Wales I completely and unequivocally condemn this attack, it does not represent the vast majority of the people who are peace loving etc.

It sounds completely ridiculous which I'm sure is the point Harry is making.

[Eggchaser]

I think the guy who is dead might have already suffered a heart attack, an interview on the radio this morning with a witness said that an elderly man was taken ill as he left the mosque before the van appeared, and with a charge only of attempted murder against the van driver this would seem to bear this out.

[Guy Profumo]

BBC news seemed to confirm the dead man was the one receiving CPR.

It stated it was not clear "at this time" whether the fatality was directly cause by being struck by the van, or his condition had caused this,

[ursus arctos]

At least here, it would still be murder if the heart attack was caused by the approach of the van.

[Antepli Ejderha]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-north-london?

There's footage on here of the man being arrested. After he's safely inside the police van he gives the crowd a wave, how brazen.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Would it not be murder in the UK?

[ursus arctos]

I don't know how the English and Welsh system deals with such situations. Different jurisdictions do so differently.

[Janik]

At least here, it would still be murder if the heart attack was caused by the approach of the van.

Reports are obviously confused at this stage. But there are some that suggest the collapse was wholly separate. If there was already a group of people gathered together, static, tending to someone, they would unfortunately provide the easiest possible target when the van showed up.

[Ray de Galles]

That's been my reading of all the reports too.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-north-london?

There's footage on here of the man being arrested. After he's safely inside the police van he gives the crowd a wave, how brazen.

The cunt is going to be begging for 24hr solitary confinement in whatever prison he ends up in.

[Guy Profumo]

At least here, it would still be murder if the heart attack was caused by the approach of the van.

Not if the cardiac condition had started before the attack - but if it prevented further treatment, or exacerbated it - it'd be manslaughter

However, I fear this might be the least of the charges levied against this defendant - starting with attempted murder (racially motivated)

[ursus arctos]

[Patrick Thistle]

Where are you getting those quotes from Ursos?

I'm really shocked. I know that estate well and have several friends who live there.

[ursus arctos]

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