David Gauke MP in a car crash of an interview on Channel 4 News, but it should be May and those in real positions of power being enough to face the media.
May gave one interview made available to all of the press. She's going to be gone before the end of the month unless she does something.
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I wish there was a hell where Megan McCardle could suffer a rigorous cost/profit analysis for eternity. What a piece of shitLast edited by Lang Spoon; 16-06-2017, 18:26.
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostSo, what is the US Libertarian take on this?
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostSo, what is the US Libertarian take on this?
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...don-tower-fire
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Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View PostMay has announced £5 million of aid and said all residents would be housed locally, meaning children could go to the same school as before.
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Originally posted by Paul S View PostI have to say, I have been more upset over this than the recent terrorist attacks in London and Manchester. Not because I'm callous or anything, but we can't really stop terrorist attacks. Grenfell should never have been allowed to happen.
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It's due to be horribly hot and muggy in London this weekend, isn't it? Please god everywhere doesn't end up like Sal's pizzeria.
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What Steve said.
There's got to be much more appealing for calm from anybody with any kind of positive influence. More people could get killed.
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In the midst of the immense sh*tness of this whole tragedy, I sincerely hope that anger will not erupt to the point of rioting in London tonight or any night this weekend. Christ knows people are angry as f*ck, but if there's anyone who doesn't deserve to be dealing with the impact of anger overflowing right now, it's the police, fire and ambulance services.
We just need to be patient and give sufficient space to those investigating whilst applying sufficient pressure on those in authority to ensure nobody gets off the hook. Breaking into town halls and scaring the shit out of admin workers gets us nowhere.
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I'm a bit scared what the robocops and kettling fucks will do if the protests are massive and unruly for the march on Whitehall. The polis weren't tooled up in 2011 (and noone was attacking the power centre). I'm sure there will be plenty around this weekend.
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Yes
The two US analogues that I thought of immediately were Happy Land in the Bronx (87 dead) and Cocoanut Grove in Boston (492 dead) each of which resulted in major changes to building regulations and inspection procedures.
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Stardust in Dublin early 80s. Teenage disco, carpets on the walls and ceiling, emergency doors chained shut, an inferno. They spent years blaming the victims and making sure the FF connected owners never faced chokey, let alone a fine.
What's the bets the same is repeated here? That poor bastard and his fridge will probably be getting death threats now thanks to the fucking Sun.
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Same here, it’s absolutely dreadful and I can hardly bear reading about it without feeling terribly angry, it reminds me of the terrible Cinq-Sept disco disaster near Grenoble in 1970 (142 dead and 50 injured) and the Alcala 20 disco tragedy in Madrid (84 deaths) when I used to go to Madrid to party during the post Franco Movida Madrileña movement era (I was studying Spanish at the time – I’m of Spanish extraction – as well as English).
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Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View PostTheresa May getting a hammering from Sky News interviewer about the response so far. She is making a hash of it, even though she's actually announcing what sounds like a comprehensive plan.
She's toast.Last edited by Lang Spoon; 16-06-2017, 17:30.
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Theresa May getting a hammering from Sky News interviewer about the response so far. She is making a hash of it, even though she's actually announcing what sounds like a comprehensive plan.
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King’s College hospital is to lodge a complaint with the press watchdog over a journalist who allegedly impersonated a friend of a victim of the Grenfell Tower fire in order to get an interview with him.
The hospital is to file a complaint with the Independent Press Standards Organisation (Ipso) about the behaviour of the Sun reporter. It has also written to News UK, the publisher of the Sun, Times and Sunday Times, about the incident.
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May has announced £5 million of aid and said all residents would be housed locally, meaning children could go to the same school as before.
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Originally posted by Lang Spoon View PostAnother addition to the building were gas pipes, where we they located? In the only stair well.
How the fuck did this get signed off by buildings regulators if this is true?
Cos regulations are pisswater, cos there's a lack of funds or will for proper oversight. Like the PFI schools in Scotland, I'd imagine this is bigger than just London or social housing. The gimcrack bullshit in Salford Quays etc could do with a thorough inspection as well.
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From yesterday.
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Another addition to the building were gas pipes, where we they located? In the only stair well.
How the fuck did this get signed off by buildings regulators if this is true?
Cos regulations are pisswater, cos there's a lack of funds or will for proper oversight. Like the PFI schools in Scotland, I'd imagine this is bigger than just London or social housing. The gimcrack bullshit in Salford Quays etc could do with a thorough inspection as well.Last edited by Lang Spoon; 16-06-2017, 16:56.
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You can't really rule anything out, can you?
May seems to have finally put out a comprehensive-sounding statement, read out on by the Sky reporter. I don't know if she was leaving it to the council before, but couldn't she have got that together a couple of days ago?
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When I first saw that corner Tubby I just thought like you, now I'm thinking that those offices had something that others in the block didn't have.
Another addition to the building were gas pipes, where we they located? In the only stair well.
How the fuck did this get signed off by buildings regulators if this is true?
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Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Posthttps://m.youtube.com/watch?lc=z13xg...&v=bWH2w3bJRoQ
This guy speaking is excellent, he is a resident of the tower block, much of what he says is in the media but a few things I've heard for the first time.
Firstly the fire engines could not access the tower along the roads because they were too narrow or had boulards on them..
Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View PostSecondly we've all seen that a small section of the building has survived seemingly less badly damaged, they were the council offices.
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