Grenfell flats fire

[diggedy derek]

Impossible to like graffiti which blathers about Covid lies, unfortunately.

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/chiomabayo/status/1342847011972915200?s=20

[Nefertiti2]

Grenfell/Tory corruption thread crossover

https://twitter.com/walkingpix/status/1342021523650060291?s=20

[Gangster Octopus]

It ain't gonna happen.

[Toby Gymshorts]

Fuck them. Fuck all of them.

Prison, long sentences. No exceptions. No time off for good behaviour. Lock these cunts up and let them rot.

[Nefertiti2]

all we do is lie

https://twitter.com/lukewbarratt/status/1336371447468617728?s=20

[Antepli Ejderha]

Kingspan were the gold standard for insurance risks where composite panels were used (food / refrigeration risks,for example). A reputation built on fraud.

Every single one of these cunts should be locked up. No exceptions.

Locked up in a building with their cladding on it and adhering to the regulations they wanted. And then they can take a chance.

This isn't manslaughter it's murder.

[Toby Gymshorts]

Kingspan were the gold standard for insurance risks where composite panels were used (food / refrigeration risks, for example). A reputation built on fraud.

Every single one of these cunts should be locked up. No exceptions.

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1333406143658471424?s=20

[Nefertiti2]

I think that we can all agree that lessons will be learned. It's our equivalent of "thoughts and prayers".

Key lesson being knowing when to sell.

[Snake Plissken]

I think that we can all agree that lessons will be learned. It's our equivalent of "thoughts and prayers".

[Gangster Octopus]

If there aren't any hangings* after this, I'll be very disappointed...

*Joke. But there needs to be a large number of prosecutions.

[Nefertiti2]

We’ll split the inquiry into two, lads. First bit attacks the fire service and the people who went to save lives, just in case anyone brings it up during the election.

and we’ll give you all plenty of time to cash out before anyone knows how you killed over 70’people

https://twitter.com/msc45/status/1332375006681174021?s=21

[Tactical Genius]

That's the question TG, some of the owners have said regulations changed, I'm not sure but I'm not getting any response from the management company.

I only know two types of decking, treated wood and composite.

The treated wood is to resist mould and rot rather than fire and I am not sure what the fire rating of the composite decking is (some kind of hard plastic).

[Gangster Octopus]

Yeah, but Corbyn and Rashford and a vaccine. Look over there.

[Amor de Cosmos]

Apparently the insulation used in the tower burnt so ferociously in tests, that it almost burned down the laboratory.

https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/home...medium=twitter

[Antepli Ejderha]

That's the question TG, some of the owners have said regulations changed, I'm not sure but I'm not getting any response from the management company.

[Tactical Genius]

Yes, get it checked ASAP.

The decking on the balconies in our apartment block are apparently not fire resistant or don't meet fire regulations, nobody is quite sure. What we know is that some mortgages have been turned down and flat sales have collapsed because the bank have refused to underwrite the mortgage.

Our management company has apartment replaced three of the balconies but not the others and isn't communicating with residents.

How can they put in Decking that isn't fire resistant, is that legal or was that put in after the building was finished?

I'll look it up online. Celotex is industruy standard for solid insulation for new and retrofitting into older properties.
I live in a Victorian house so clad the walls from the inside as these properties lose alot of heat (High ceilings, big windows and single skin brickwork). I have alot of other fire safety measures so it will be ok if there is a fire (as in smoke alarms, fire doors will give me time to make my escape).

The building regulations officer was round my house at various stages of the build to make sure I used the correct materials etc.

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/peteapps/status/1329192745588695042?s=21

[Antepli Ejderha]

I have the walls and roof of my house clad with Celotex to improve it's thermal efficiency back in 2014. It marketed as a good insulator and very fire resistant.
Should I be worried?

Yes, get it checked ASAP.

The decking on the balconies in our apartment block are apparently not fire resistant or don't meet fire regulations, nobody is quite sure. What we know is that some mortgages have been turned down and flat sales have collapsed because the bank have refused to underwrite the mortgage.

Our management company has apartment replaced three of the balconies but not the others and isn't communicating with residents.

[Nefertiti2]

Possibly, yes.

[Tactical Genius]

I have the walls and roof of my house clad with Celotex to improve it's thermal efficiency back in 2014. It marketed as a good insulator and very fire resistant.
Should I be worried?

[Toby Gymshorts]

Can you hear that?

That is the sound of thousands and millions of pounds of property and assets being quickly transferred to spouses and children.

If the directorships of these companies are not charged with - at the very least - corporate manslaughter, then I will be both incredibly angry and not-at-all surprised.

[Nefertiti2]

Why the fuck, even in times like this, isn't this story topping the news bulletings? Criminal, deathly fraud. People need to go inside for this (not the poor fucker who blew the whistle to the inquiry, mind, he's done a public service all told)

although as Pete Apps who is an absolute must-follow on this points out:

https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1328678705850445829?s=20

[Gangster Octopus]

Yeah but Marcus Rashford bought a house...