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    Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
    He aggressively punches downwards at every available opportunity, and there's a lot of people who are really into that shit.
    Yes, but the people he punches down on love him for that for some strange reason.

    You cannot get into power in the UK without the consent of the overwhelming majority of the working classes. Whatever you think of Corbyn and his politics, he is clearly not a heartless cunt like Johnson, Rees-Mogg, or Farage who clearly don't give a shit about the working classes. Yet the working classes love them.

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      I don't know if johnson's working class appeal extends too far beyond the people who can't see past how he likes to punch down at brown people and women, like it was back when they were young.

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        Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
        I don't know if johnson's working class appeal extends too far beyond the people who can't see past how he likes to punch down at brown people and women, like it was back when they were young.
        Not Just women and darkies mate. He also had some choice words for gay people using words like "bum boys".
        Only middle-class hetrosexual white males are immune from his sharp wit/Banter (depending on your class).

        Labour would do well to remind the electorate of stuff like this.
        https://www.businessinsider.com/bori...19-6?r=US&IR=T

        Johnson is less than 9 years older than me and the shit he says has been unacceptable since the 80's so we cannot blame it on his age.
        Bigoted thoughts and deeds transcends class in England hence his popularity, see the England football team in an international tournament for evidence.

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          TG's absolutely right. If Johnson had said that as a 15 year old footballer he'd be facing seriiosu consequences. banned and fined. because he did it as a 40 year old Journalist in his newspaper columns they made him Prime Minister.

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            Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
            TG's absolutely right. If Johnson had said that as a 15 year old footballer he'd be facing seriiosu consequences. banned and fined. because he did it as a 40 year old Journalist in his newspaper columns they made him Prime Minister.
            Nah, You see he says it in anachronistic ways, and that makes it ok, cos he's doing a bit. Isn't he funny. Isn't he a card.

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              Fucking Hislop and Merton and the rest of the HIGNFY cunts have so much to answer for.

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                I think that the first time I can across Johnson was when he interviewed Frank Bruno. The latter was taking the piss out of his accent and calling him The Colonel or something.

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                  Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                  Fucking Hislop and Merton and the rest of the HIGNFY cunts have so much to answer for.
                  Nah, i'm not having that.
                  HIGNFY is popular, but most people have not watched that nor have seen it. Plus it is nowhere near as popular as it was in the early 90's when Angus Deaton used to host it. furthermore, most people do not read the publications he wrote for. He is more famous for his appearances on regular TV. If Johnson was around 150 years ago, he would be a civil servant stationed somewhere in colonial Africa or India for a short period until hastily recalled home because his bedside manner pissed off the locals so much, It required at least two battalions of Fusiliers, 3 battleships and 6 months of fighting to resolve the [i]disagreement[i/]. Only for him to come home to a safe Tory seat somewhere up north and out of the way of polite company.

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                    His wacky harmless bumbling posho celeb status started on HIGNFY in 1998 but, before he ever ran for mayor and was still a shit journalist.
                    Last edited by Lang Spoon; 07-11-2019, 00:58.

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                      Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
                      In North Somerset- I think the Tories would still win




                      [URL]https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1192047892237881345?s=21[/URL]
                      A great response from Corbyn.

                      I think Rees Mogg would still win too but if the others stood aside it could turn into a very different kind of contest, a little like the one that removed Neil Hamilton, and that could only ever cost Rees Mogg imho.

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                        Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                        His wacky harmless bumbling posho celeb status started on HIGNFY in 1998 but, before he ever ran for mayor and was still a shit journalist.
                        He was ambushed by Hislop on that episode for the Darius Guppy affair.

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                          I'd never actually seen Johnson on HGNFY but i recently was shown this clip. I'm not sure how you get from this to thinking he's a loveable character. He comes across as a total prick who is not (as popular understanding of his HIGFY appearances has it) self deprecating and funny, but rather someone with absolutely zero sense of humour and a complete cunt

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                            Grenfell survivors angered by inquiry panel change

                            https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Gmail

                            First a Tory MP and now the only expert on the panel seen as competent and understanding gone.

                            All buried on Christmas Eve.

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                              Why the fuck is Boris Johnson deciding the make up of the panel?

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                                I'm almost surprised that you asked that...

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                                  Boris Johnson's pick to help lead Grenfell inquiry linked to cladding firm

                                  https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Gmail

                                  I wish I were shocked.

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                                    Grenfell survivors and bereaved still fighting frustrating battles

                                    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Gmail

                                    More news. It's scandalous what's happening to these poor people.

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                                      Away from the particulars of Grendel there are estimated to be 12000 blocks of flats with some kind of defective cladding or problematic fire stopping.

                                      For the past 30 years the UK construction industry has prioritised warmth and insulation over fireproofing which now seems tragically poor.

                                      to start with even the most basic things - most of the fire doors on flat front doors failed the new tests so pretty much all need replacing across the UK. That’s about £500 a go.

                                      wooden balcony’s. several fires have recently spread by jumping up the balconies. These need to go.

                                      that horrible larch cladding that was in fashion. Wood burns so it has to go.

                                      Nearly every refurbished building has to be checked as the builders will have ruined fire compartmentalisation between floors by putting new pipe work through them and not sealing them properly.

                                      every single large landlord will need to do a complete audit and intrusive investigations into the guts of every building. Just the investigation of a building could cost £50k. Fixing a 100 flat building can easily be £2m if all the cladding needs to come off. And the ACM buildings are just a drop in the ocean.
                                      this is gonna take 10 to 15 years to put right ang quite a few billions.

                                      The alternative is is to take a chance.

                                      The mortgage market is collapsing on many buildings as a prolonged haggle goes on about how to certificate that a building is safe and to agree who pays for the ones that aren’t.

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                                        Taking the big London Housing Associations as an example. There are a dozen or so main players. each has give or take 200 buildings over 18 m high and 300 between 11 & 18 metres.

                                        taking the over 18m buildings between them they manage in excess of 2500 buildings each with about 100 flats in them. That is a quarter of a million households.

                                        in round numbers a third of these are tenants a third are shared owners and a third are leaseholders.

                                        of the buildings

                                        a third are OK.
                                        A third fully owned ny the HAs and have problems of one sort or another
                                        a third are on long leases - leased by the HA from either a private owner or a residents management company. These are the highest risk buildings in many cases.

                                        in one example that I know of the HA has made provision of £40m to deal with the problem third they own.
                                        they estimate a further £60m to fix the buildings they lease but do not own 5he freehold on.

                                        these are initial figures and are likely to cost more.

                                        to put this in perspective the UK govt has set aside £600 m as a relief fund for the whole UK. One HA estimates it’s bill as one sixth of that sum.

                                        they are all in a quandary as to who should cover all the costs and how that should be done.

                                        in the existing high risk buildings 24 hour on site waking watch services are being put in place. This sort of service costs circa £100k upwards per building per annum.

                                        Add in the big city council landlords and you have a major drain on all future funds in the social housing sector.

                                        and that’s only looking at the biggest buildings.

                                        in the private sector rectification is going to be even more complex. Many buildings are owned by large pension funds and foreign investors. These have plenty of funds but aren’t in the business to manage and risk large capital sums for no return.

                                        many other buildings are owned by RMCs - these have no meaningful assets and have to raise any capital from the members (leaseholders). The new leases sold in London over the past 10 years have mostly been to BTR investors a significant majority of whom are oversees investors. It wasn’t in their business plan to lash out £20k per property on fire safety work.

                                        Added to which many of the skilled construction workers seem to have opted to return home and there was a massive skills shortage anyway.

                                        this means there will be massive inflation in the costs of fire safety expertise and a long rationed queue to get any works done.











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                                          What's a RMC?

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                                            Originally posted by Sporting View Post
                                            What's a RMC?
                                            Residents Management Company.

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                                              Resignation°

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                                                No conflict of interest.

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                                                  She took money from the company but there's no conflict of interest. Wtf.

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                                                    Arconic, the US industrial conglomerate that made the cladding panels, knew in 2011 they were too flammable for use across Europe, but believed it could still “work with regulators who are not as restrictive”.
                                                    Those people who made the decision to use this cladding along with those who made the regulations less stringent should be brought to justice.

                                                    The quote is from this article.

                                                    Grenfell Tower inquiry: what we learned as second phase begins

                                                    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Gmail

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