Grenfell flats fire

[Nefertiti2]

Former OTF-er and man single handedly maintaining the reputation of music journalism

[URL]https://twitter.com/simon_price01/status/1191735372021190656?s=21[/URL]

[Nefertiti2]

[URL]https://twitter.com/d_whyte100/status/1191628859483054080?s=21[/URL]

[Antepli Ejderha]

More likely the servants entrance.

I'll stop being flippant as 72 people were murdered here and Rees Mogg is blaming them despite the fact it was his mates that killed them.

[Snake Plissken]

Probably doesn't understand why they couldn't have left via the East Wing.

[Antepli Ejderha]

Stormzy joins backlash against Rees-Mogg over Grenfell apology

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...y_to_clipboard

I presume this has been posted elsewhere but words fail me. Rees-Mogg displaying clear sociopathic tendencies.

[Lang Spoon]

He's fucking despicable.

[Arturo]

Peston is a fucking waste of space, but we all knew that anyway.

[Antepli Ejderha]

Thus far two conservatives (Merriman, and someone else I didn't catch) digging at Corbyn in Parliament for wearing a green tie in support/remembrance of the victims. Irredeemable shitehawks.

Apparently Theresa May told them why he was wearing a green tie. The first time she's done anything for Grenfell.

[Nefertiti2]

It’s flabbergasting how ready some journalists are too run with the prescribed narrative

[URL]https://twitter.com/tomkibasi/status/1189684933834559488?s=21[/URL]

[beak]

Thus far two conservatives (Merriman, and someone else I didn't catch) digging at Corbyn in Parliament for wearing a green tie in support/remembrance of the victims. Irredeemable shitehawks.

[Satchmo Distel]

So, looks like the fire brigade and firefighters are being hung out to dry by the first phase of the inquiry

That embedded link does not open for me but Wrack's whole timeline is worth reading

https://twitter.com/MattWrack?ref_sr...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[Nefertiti2]

[URL]https://twitter.com/cmonehen/status/1189077792161443840?s=21[/URL]

[Nefertiti2]

So the government and the press can have as many free hits as possible.

reminder.

gavin Barwell who ignored Seven warnings of a serious danger of a major fire is now Lord Barwell.



In February 2016, ministers posted on a government website details of their ‘anti-red tape’ agenda on new-build properties.

In a separate report fire safety inspections, the Conservatives said, had been reduced for some companies from six hours to just 45 minutes.

The move, titled Cutting Red Tape, was part of the Tory plans to abolish a ‘health and safety’ culture that they claimed was hurting money-making businesses.

[Duncan Gardner]

Can the residents comment later this week, after publication?

[E10 Rifle]

A mate of mine was seconded to compile the FBU's evidence and witness statements for the inquiry. It was one hell of a traumatic experience. Meanwhile, the Grenfell residents are bound by confidentiality agreements and can't comment yet.

[Snake Plissken]

The word "cunts" doesn't seem strong enough.

[E10 Rifle]

So, looks like the fire brigade and firefighters are being hung out to dry by the first phase of the inquiry

[Satchmo Distel]

Elbow's new single was apparently written in response to Garvey's distress following Grenfell.

https://music.mxdwn.com/2019/10/03/n...se-white-heat/

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/Faduma_LDN/status/1180398875431129089?s=20

Keep the Faith.
Keep the Story Alive
Grenfell was corporate Manslaughter by Boris Johnson, George Osborne. David Cameron and Theresa May

Don't let anyone forget it

[Nefertiti2]

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[Antepli Ejderha]

True, but the focus on the fire brigade- which was the first thing the enquiry concentrated on- has become a very convenient way to take the pressure of the government, the manufacturers, RBKC and the rest.

I totally agree Nef. However that advice cost lives. The real issue is how much the council and the companies knew about the cladding and why there was only a single exit with no sprinkler system. The building was a death trap because of these things so in a way staying in a flat made some kind of sense. But it was wrong.

Iirc the advice is still the same.

[Nefertiti2]

True, but the focus on the fire brigade- which was the first thing the enquiry concentrated on- has become a very convenient way to take the pressure of the government, the manufacturers, RBKC and the rest.

[Antepli Ejderha]

There was a fire at Lakanal house which caused deaths in 2009

Of course they knew,

From the link

First responders repeatedly urged 999 callers to remain in their flats instead of attempting to flee, based on the theory of compartmentalization, or that the flats would help protect the families while the blaze was contained.

No lessons learnt from this.

[Nefertiti2]

There was a fire at Lakanal house which caused deaths in 2009

Of course they knew,

Gavin Barwell, who was housing minister in 2016 and 2017, received seven letters from the group of MPs responsible for scrutinising fire safety rules between September 2016 and May 2017 – with the last landing just 26 days before the fire at Grenfell Tower.

The letters warned of the risk of a deadly fire and called for a promised review of building regulations and fire safety to be carried out to prevent it.

But Mr Barwell sent just three short replies during this period and became so bad at replying that the group resorted to sending their letters by recorded delivery.

[Antepli Ejderha]

thanks for all that stuff above.

are developers responsible, you think? the bonfire of regulations made it possible/likely.

If they knew then yes. The council knew so it's likely the developers did too. Imho.