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  • ad hoc
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    Brilliantly damning about May here http://mailchi.mp/politics/politics-...s?e=9313018166

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    He's looking for a fight and taking on the fire service after this is just stupidity. Perhaps it may help to bring this privileged twat down.

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  • ursus arctos
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    Welcome superstu64

    It is extraordinarily difficult to disagree with those views.

    I only wish the circumstances of your arrival were more positive.

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  • Snake Plissken
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    https://twitter.com/C4Ciaran/status/875699346767056898

    In summary,

    Slags off Labour
    Defends own mayoralty
    Points to Sadq Khan
    Asks why people are politicising this now

    Cunt.

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  • superstu64
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    Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
    That's just sick.

    I try not to get upset at things like this, it doesn't do me any good and I can't help when tragedies happen.
    But this fire has made me so angry, the continued treatment of the lower class as utter shit by the privallged few. And as we learn more about the tangled web of warnings and cost cutting, it's even more infuriating.

    I hope this goes to the top in terms of punishment but I fear it won't and in 5 years no one will care.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Cladding for Grenfell Tower was cheaper, more flammable option, supplier confirms
    Omnis Exteriors asked to supply cladding that was 2 cheaper per square metre than fire-resistant version, investigation confirms.

    The Guardian confirms what we already suspected.

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  • Lang Spoon
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    Originally posted by Paul S View Post
    Sadly yes, although the criticism of Theresa May is interesting. She was in Paris at a conference and flew back (presumably to RAF Northolt) and then went straight to Kensington. Apparently she decided not to meet people as she didn't want emergency service resources taken away from the rescue effort. Given she called a needless election, she is pretty much damned whatever she does right now.
    Sorry Paul that's desperate bullshit. She just looks a desperate coward at best, callous at worst. Khan met the people and faced their anger, why couldn't she?

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
    No lessons learnt from phone hacking then, I thought the regulations were strong enough?

    They really are Scum

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  • ad hoc
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    More Sun shittiness https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...P=share_btn_tw

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  • Snake Plissken
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    Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
    Since stepping down as an MP Osbourne has started too surprise, I thought it was revenge against May but he might be doing more. Their cartoon of the burnt out block with police tape around it saying crime scene isn't much but it does challenge the Tory narrative.
    He'll not be so quick to jump in when it comes out that his slashing of council budgets was part of the cause.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
    How would meeting victims take emergency services away from the rescue? Surely meeting the firefighters as she did, took them away from the front line*, unlike Corbyn meeting the grieving.

    (*Not that I actually have an issue with her meeting and - I presume - thanking the emergency services)
    So Brenda and the Sciver took up valuable resources then according to Paul S if we follow that logic.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Originally posted by Felicity, I guess so View Post
    Mail and Sun arguably worse in using image of the 'Ethiopian' whose fridge 'caused' the deaths
    I thought that was only a rumour on social media. Most early reports had blamed gas works.

    Blame the black immigrant is obviously a better narrative.

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  • ad hoc
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    Originally posted by Paul S View Post
    Sadly yes, although the criticism of Theresa May is interesting. She was in Paris at a conference and flew back (presumably to RAF Northolt) and then went straight to Kensington. Apparently she decided not to meet people as she didn't want emergency service resources taken away from the rescue effort. Given she called a needless election, she is pretty much damned whatever she does right now.
    How would meeting victims take emergency services away from the rescue? Surely meeting the firefighters as she did, took them away from the front line*, unlike Corbyn meeting the grieving.

    (*Not that I actually have an issue with her meeting and - I presume - thanking the emergency services)

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Since stepping down as an MP Osbourne has started too surprise, I thought it was revenge against May but he might be doing more. Their cartoon of the burnt out block with police tape around it saying crime scene isn't much but it does challenge the Tory narrative.

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  • Paul S
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    Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
    Paul S. Is it political now?

    Edit: at least 30
    Sadly yes, although the criticism of Theresa May is interesting. She was in Paris at a conference and flew back (presumably to RAF Northolt) and then went straight to Kensington. Apparently she decided not to meet people as she didn't want emergency service resources taken away from the rescue effort. Given she called a needless election, she is pretty much damned whatever she does right now.

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  • Felicity, I guess so
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    Mail and Sun arguably worse in using image of the 'Ethiopian' whose fridge 'caused' the deaths

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  • Crusoe
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    Christ. This looks likely to be the biggest single loss of life in the UK since 2005, and if it's as bad as some suggest since Lockerbie. It's monstrous.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    It's time to boycott the Express in the same way that Liverpool boycotts the Scum after Hillsborough.

    The death toll has almost doubled again, it's now 30.

    Paul S. Is it political now?

    Edit: at least 30
    Last edited by Antepli Ejderha; 16-06-2017, 11:33.

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  • Paul S
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    Thirty dead now and that number is expected to rise.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Dear Theresa May,

    Brenda went and visited the victims today but you cannot because it's not safe.

    Get a fucking grip and go face the wrath of the public.

    Btw they are going to be even more angry than before because of your cowardly actions before.

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  • ursus arctos
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    Absolute scum

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  • ad hoc
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    This article from March this year: http://www.frmjournal.com/news/news_...31709AC5C81B2D

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  • David Agnew
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    Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View Post
    What others have said. Appalling. God only knows how many dead there are near the top of the building. It feels a bit like Katrina.

    Different things will jump out to different people at this stage. One thing with me, and a broadbrush politics thing, is the way the Coalition forced a level of cuts on to councils that it didn't want to front up for itself. Then it stuck a de facto 1.99% cap on councils. The goon Pickles fretted about Christmas lights and weekly bin collections being cut, not maintenance of buildings like Grenfell.

    Not to mention Boris Johnson cutting so many fire services down, and closing several stations, and telling a London Assembly member to "get stuffed" when challenged on it.

    https://twitter.com/paulgslatter/status/874997940166819842

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/akalamusi...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Lots of good stuff by Akala on his Twitter, some really good links and opinion.

    This is political, this is so fucking political.

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  • Antepli Ejderha
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    Edit: SDR linked to the sources do I've deleted.
    Last edited by Antepli Ejderha; 15-06-2017, 23:25.

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