The Brexit Thread

[San Bernardhinault]

I'm glad that Ursula understands the UK's position. I'm not sure that I do.

[Diable Rouge]

There has been an EU statement now:

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1336801873836249089

[Nefertiti2]

I liked this...

https://twitter.com/wblau/status/1336791132659986444?s=20

No deal at dinner tonight...

No Joint statement afterwards.

[Diable Rouge]

Now don't stop me, I'm going to walk out this door, any second now ...

https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1336797161091194880

[Nefertiti2]

Thanks wingco

Meanwhile things getting more serious

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1336777195755360257?s=20

[wingco]

Yeah. agree with Nef, it is a very good piece, even if its conclusion might well have been evident to many of us. And what makes the difference is that this isn't a columnist merely Reckoning; it's the connection with Vaga that gives a column like this, his columns in general, an edge, a further insight, especially as he isn't there for the purposes of mere confirmation bias.

[Nefertiti2]

Don't remember John harris ever mentioning the cruise-booking retirees in Hampshire. What was telling, too I thought was that Chakrabortty had followed up to ask the lad in newport what he thought now. Can't imagine Harris keeps anyone's phone number

Speaking last weekend, Vaga tells me he has been far too bothered about Covid and Christmas shopping to think about the latest dramas with the EU. He went to Trafalgar Square for the big Brexit booze-up in January but hasn’t followed it much since. “I just assume it’s all going in the right direction – isn’t it?”

[Snake Plissken]

It's not bad. It doesn't make the final leap towards the media though, promoting it all as a jolly old game and never examining the claims made because it made good television/clicks.

June 2016 marked the point at which every millionaire rightwing crackpot and Oxford-educated libertarian began arrogating the moral authority of the people for their own hucksterish schemes and quack policies. To do that, they have leaned on the votes for Brexit or Johnson cast by working people in places such as south Wales or north-east Derbyshire. The support of cruise-booking retirees in Hampshire plainly does not cast the same spell.

Change a few words around and this could have been written about the BBC, or John Harris, or others.

[Nefertiti2]

Wow. Such insight. Who ever thought that it wasn’t?

Keir Starmer for one.

I think it's a good piece,

[Nefertiti2]

this is reassuring

https://twitter.com/RHARodMcKenzie/status/1336727215522914304?s=20

[Snake Plissken]

Wow. Such insight. Who ever thought that it wasn’t?

[Nefertiti2]

I suppose the cheering side of this is that we can assume Rees-Mogg doesn't -yet- have a Soylent Green facility.

https://twitter.com/chakrabortty/status/1336721631373307907?s=20

[Patrick Thistle]

Whilst I appreciate the sentiment of this I can't be the only one who thinks, well if they could be commodified, sold and eaten like fish they probably would become "our people".

True. If Jacob Rees Mogg had a Soylent Green factory they wouldn't be turning back small boats.

[Tratorello]

I like this

Whilst I appreciate the sentiment of this I can't be the only one who thinks, well if they could be commodified, sold and eaten like fish they probably would become "our people".

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/mikebutcher/status/1336666205118148612?s=20

[Snake Plissken]

When Johnson says "No British PM could sign this deal" surely it is within the reach of somebody within the Labour Party to have prepared Sir Keith with "Yes they could, they did, and that British PM was you". I mean, I could see that line coming a mile off and I'm only half engaged with it at the moment.

[Guy Profumo]

Johnson to set up crisis squad D20 to be overseen by Michael Gove in case of issues with Covid-19, Brexit, or extreme weather events


What could possibly go wrong?



https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/bre...brexit-6634318

[sw2borshch]

It could easily be shut down by media types etc. contrasting it with our previous Germany+ deal, but it won't be.

[Snake Plissken]

It's OK, I'm sure that he will get called out on it...any.. time... now...

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

The Prime Minister loves banging on an "Australia style deal", doesn't he. Because it sounds nicer than saying we will have a "Mozambique style deal" or a "Turkmenistan style deal". Because that, actually, is what it is. He's a disingenuous, misleading, dangerous cunt.

[Flynnie]

It’s a car for Tories with small dicks, beware of anybody who has one.

[Snake Plissken]

It's completely in keeping with him being a Brexiteer that he's designed a Land Rover, except even more hopelessly expensive and definitely not as good.

[Erskine Bridges]

I'm not sure they really are "cars"

Looks like he asked Homer Simpson to design that.

[Patrick Thistle]

I like this

[Eggchaser]

Huh. Didn't realise Ineos made cars. Seems a weird sideline for a chemicals company.

He wants to turn it into a hydrogen fuel cell powered car for reasons entirely unconnected to his hydrogen refining business.