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    Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post

    You mean the speech that prompted the start of this thread?
    Indeed, everything else was merely a vain hope.

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      Meanwhile, it seems the average Tory member is extremely ephemeral in their political thinking, if Liz Truss is top of the popularity stakes - suspect Sunak will slide sharply when the furloughs are rolled back:

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        Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
        the preference for No Deal over anything sensible was always there
        Even the French agree. Cl?ment Beaune, France’s European affairs minister and a close ally of president Emmanuel Macron, said his country could act unilaterally if the terms were not right: "I still hope we can have a deal but I also say to our fishermen, to our producers, to our citizens, that we won’t accept a bad deal."

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          I think one thing that graph shows is that Gove will never be party leader. Although I suspect he as seen enough skeletons in closets and has enough dirt to keep him in key roles whoever is in charge.

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            The fact that Priti fucking Patel is +49 tells you all you need to know about conservative party members, collectively.

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              In fairness to Truss, she has actually delivered something in her brief, even if trade agreements with Alexander the Great aren't exactly anything to shout about.

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                She hasn't. We had 40 trade agreements "in the bag" two years ago according to Digby Jones. About 35 short by my counting.

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                  Not very good update from Barnier...

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                    https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/status/1334939381854040064?s=20

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                      Just watched Channel 4 News. This is not going to be a surprise to anyone who has met, listened to or even heard of him, but Andrew Bridgen is an odiously disrespectful little cunt.

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                        Yes, I saw that and pretty much the same words went through my mind. As they usually do when I see him.

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                          My brother's MP

                          And, yes, a cunt. (Bridgen, not my brother)

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                            https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1335283257492066306

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                              Are they going to redo the European flag to remove one of the stars?

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                                The number of stars has been symbolic for a while

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                                  Maybe they’d like to adjust it to make a point.

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                                    Apparently, the creator of the flag was a devout Catholic, and based the starry circle on the Miraculous Medal.

                                    https://www.lastampa.it/vatican-insi...ian-1.36371372
                                    Last edited by Diable Rouge; 05-12-2020, 19:47.

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                                      I don't think I ever had a miraculous medal for more than a week before I lost it .

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                                        https://twitter.com/chrisgreybrexit/status/1335515261911396353?s=20

                                        As Henig points out, there's no discussion about say what a level playing field would mean, or what concessions the UK should make, or insist on - least of all from the risible BBC politics editor there are only two positions- we expect nothing less than this because we are now in charge of our own sovereignty, or the EU are making unacceptable demands.

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                                          I think you'll find quite a lot of people have been pointing out what a disaster No Deal is going to be for about 4 years now. We had to remove a Tory PM and excise all the remainers from government in a new general election to elect this hopeless administration of fuckwits who assured us that a deal would be "the easiest trade deal in history ... virtually ready made." Any sensible opposition is now lost as "too late, you lost, we will build Britain Back Better" and all that waffle.

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                                            And those people are;
                                            Sir keith Starmer, one time fervent pro-remainer who is proposing either abstaining or voting in favour of the deal- or No Deal'

                                            The commentariat in the national newspapers and broadcast media whose only line appears to be"blame the French"

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                                              Originally posted by elguapo4 View Post
                                              I don't think I ever had a miraculous medal for more than a week before I lost it .
                                              Maybe you're more of a St Anthony of Padua kinda guy.

                                              Disappointingly, his medals tend to feature a generic "Pray for us" slogan rather than "Find my stuff!"

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                                                Reminder
                                                https://twitter.com/danhind/status/1335593836228259847?s=21

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                                                  https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/1335303722042351617?s=20

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                                                    Macron's influential European minister:

                                                    https://twitter.com/AlexDukalskis/status/1335635340321820676

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