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    Johnson has to self isolate at a crucial time in Brexit negotiations, very fucking convenient for the cowardly fucker. It's like De Valera in Ireland, buggering off to the USA during the war of independence, then sending Michael Collins off to the negotiations with the British, while he stayed at home.

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      It did make me smile last week when "Brexit" was officially reintroduced to government terminology after being verboten all summer long ("Brexit is completed and should only be used to reference a historical event"). Seems like the general populace tend to search government guidance using the term and therefore haven't always been finding the advice they needed to get themselves ready for the end of the transition period...

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        Or should I add this to the Dis-United Kingdom thread?

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          There's an opportunity to sort 2 problems simultaneously. The Nations League needs an extra team (or 5 at a pinch) to ensure all groups are the same size...

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            This thread needs a wide audience.

            https://twitter.com/PenLlawen/status/1328268066816282624

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              Well, maybe the fishing industry leaders should have advised captains of fishing vessels not to engage in Farage's stunts then. (And maybe to drop him off the side into deep water)

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                If you click through, one of the “fishing leaders” so anxious about going bust was part of the flotilla.

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                  Originally posted by Snake Plissken View Post
                  If you click through, one of the “fishing leaders” so anxious about going bust was part of the flotilla.
                  Unfortunately I just checked the fucks shelf and I'm all out of fucks. I have no fucks left to give.

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                    The whitefish Proud Humble fishing folk in Scotland is a cartel owned by 5 families. They drowned out the shellfish fishing folk of the west coast and Fife in favour of some bollocks of tearing up the Evil Common Fisheries Policy and their forelock tugging sea serfs in Moray were the part of Scotland that came closest to voting for Brexit. Disgusting Tory donor bastards.

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                      https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1328395944551911429?s=20

                      just as Sir Keir thinks we should respect the result and GET BREXIT DONE...

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                        Interesting analysis.
                        everyone knows a deal is needed but no Tory wants to be the one responsible- because it will kill their leadership chances

                        https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1330166337327476746?s=21

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                          Not much German required to get the gist of this article:

                          https://twitter.com/NickGibbs/status/1330850414917455873

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                            https://twitter.com/JP_Biz/status/1334269946751311876

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                              Is No Deal now a nailed on certainty?

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                                It's more likely than not.

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                                  It'll be a shit deal so Johnson can stand down having delivered Brexit and beaten Covid. And as usual, someone else will have to clean up the mess.

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                                    Four weeks to go and nobody has got a fucking clue what's happening. Stock up on things you can stockpile and need. Brexit plus the post Christmas Covid-19 spike is going to create a perfect storm to fuck this country up for a generation or two.

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                                      Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
                                      Four weeks to go and nobody has got a fucking clue what's happening.
                                      Ahem, I think that you will find that everyone knows what is happening. There are advertising campaigns on telly about it telling me to "be prepared" and I've received a couple of mailings from the UK Government saying that I have to "be prepared" for the transition. So any business who says that they have no idea what to do is absolutely wrong. The answer is "Be prepared!"

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                                        A nation of scouts.

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                                          Or hyenas.

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                                            https://twitter.com/anandMenon1/status/1334777828756303873?s=20

                                            Forgot to add "successfully weaponising the issue against Jeremy Corbyn"

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                                              He's just seeking attention and trying to reinvent himself in time for the new dark age. The people who voted to remain and didn't immediately start pushing for a second referendum are still the biggest group of suckers and rubes in the history of the UK since the end of the peasants revolt when everyone said "That seems reasonable". The worst are those who pushed back against the attempts for a second referendum, for reasons of doomed triangulation, and don't ever forget that.

                                              There was only ever going to be one end point for this. There are two types of laws and rights that people in the UK have. There were those that a Tory Govt with an overall majority could extinguish overnight, and there were those laws and rights that they had to leave the EU to extinguish. This is the point of Brexit. You were always going to end up at this point, and any attempt to reach a less damaging form of brexit was always going to be washed away after Boris johnson replaced Theresa may.

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                                                In fact, you can precisely date the point at which any attempt to mitigate Brexit was lost, and that was the 17th of January, 2017, with Theresa May's Lancaster House speech - up until that point, the 27 were trying to convince the UK to remain in the Single Market, and afterwards, the Opposition could never persuade sufficient Tories to gel around an alternative.

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                                                  Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                                                  In fact, you can precisely date the point at which any attempt to mitigate Brexit was lost, and that was the 17th of January, 2017, with Theresa May's Lancaster House speech - up until that point, the 27 were trying to convince the UK to remain in the Single Market, and afterwards, the Opposition could never persuade sufficient Tories to gel around an alternative.
                                                  You mean the speech that prompted the start of this thread?

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                                                    I can't see any difference between May's position on the front page of this thread and Johnson's now. The same lies and blackmail were being used. She perhaps softened her tone after losing her majority and needing the votes of Tory remainers, which led to a strategy of kicking the can down the road every few months, but the preference for No Deal over anything sensible was always there.
                                                    Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 04-12-2020, 14:12.

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