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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
I'm surprised the EU even agreed to this but I suppose it was this or No Deal.
The "cooling off" period seems vague and I would have thought would be highly unstable. It also undermines the Anglo-Irish Agreement.
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So Johnson announces as a done deal something which the DUP hasn't signed up to and which Parliament hasn't ratified.
meanwhile the Lib Dems are complaining that the two largest oposition parties are working tiigether
https://twitter.com/GeorgiGotev/status/1184766982387838980?s=20
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https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1184773747389227008?s=20
Why are the EU participating in this farce?
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The text of the agreement:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...rn_ireland.pdf
It should be stressed, as Barnier has just done, that this is just a draft and has to go through the EU Parliament before the 27 ministers sign off on itLast edited by Satchmo Distel; 17-10-2019, 10:32.
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Hmm. Even if the Lib Dems and SNP were onboard, Labour would still have needed 20 of 41 independents to come with them, of whom 21 were Tories. I mean, it would have been interesting but the plan never had the numbers because the Tories who dislike Brexit really do hate Corbyn more. Those have been the fundamentals of the problem since 2017, that non-Brexit forces would not control the agenda until enough Tories were prepared to collapse the government (as many people on this very thread have pointed out in the last 2 years) so to blame _this_ on Swinson is tribalist buffoonery.
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" Deal latest - Experts say this doesn’t give the guarantees on a softer brexit as Theresa May’s deal. In May’s deal there were legally binding commitments on level playing field. This kicks that can down the road, and could mean a harder or a softer brexit dependent on PM."
So the deal is dependent on entrusting the country to the word of Boris - " "I plan to leave my wife" "Yes of course I've checked my sources" " She was giving me technology Lessons" "iJohnson
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For all the gazillions of words spent on political machinations throughout the ages, there really is only a short list of moves in the playbook.
"Declare victory and leave" is a well-trodden path. And "Always say it's new". And everyone knew that was going to be the play, even before Johnson got the job. The rest is bluster and noise.
I guess that old Stephen Fry clip will be getting a good workout ("A good deal for Britain!").
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Originally posted by E10 Rifle View PostAm I reading this right, this 'right to vote on the arrangement every four years' given to Stormont doesn't require a majority from "both communities"? That looks to be storing up a whole world of problems if so.
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