The Brexit Thread

[ad hoc]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1130940872445579264

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Aye that was exactly my thoughts when i saw that. I think it's closer to cry though

[sw2borshch]

So, apparently the lady from that video is banned from the coast.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6962633.stm

[hobbes]

Here's what I've come to. We have another referendum, but this time the votes are recorded by your name. SO it's a matter of public knowledge what you voted.
Have your referendum between remain and no-deal or however you do it.
If leave still wins, distribute the economic disaster between those who voted out. So if the economy crashes by 8%, reduce the pensions of leavers by an amount comparable to that.
If they're in work, increase the tax code for leavers to cover the loss of income the govt have to deal with because of Brexit.
Distribute the difference to those people who voted remain so they don't suffer for the idiocy of leavers.

Lets see how many of the quitlings are prepared to stake their own livelihoods on it when the risk is not shared out amongst their innocent compatriots.

[Nocturnal Submission]

Two out of the three latest opinion polls have the Brexit Party in the high-30%+ range. The Lib Dems as still by far the most popular of the Remain options. Labour's vote is the most volatile, estimated at anywhere from 13% to 22%, the Tories are hovering around the high single figure mark (percentage not votes!) along with the Greens, with ChUK and UKIP consistently in the low single figure range.

(Hmmmm, should have put this in the Euro-elections thread. Going to copy over).

[Snake Plissken]

Lets see how many of the quitlings are prepared to stake their own livelihoods on it when the risk is not shared out amongst their innocent compatriots.

The problem is that the Leavers will be dead through old age or rage-induced heart attacks, so they won't be able to pay.

[hobbes]

They won't need to though. At least 50% of them will bottle out if they think it means someone else being better off than them. Certainly the ones in the South East.

[Ginger Yellow]

WAB not being published until Friday. Not that it seems there's much new in there.

[Antepli Ejderha]

https://news.sky.com/story/british-s...lapse-11719704

Government blaming it on European rules on state aid as to why there's no bailout. Is this true or more anti Europe lies?

[Lang Spoon]

Lies

[Lang Spoon]

Exemptions can always be found. This is Corbyn's biggest blind spot too. Proper industrial nations in europe are always getting around the rules by arguing vital strategic industry and the likes.

[Lang Spoon]

God I miss Tubbs.

[E10 Rifle]

Wearily, the tendencies of both hardcore leavers and remainers to bring their "every single news item proves my view of Brexit is right" hot take to this obscures some of the other reasons the British Steel debacle has happened - the global marketplace situation, the culpability of Greybull, industrial (non-)policy in the UK for decades.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

The Proximate causes of the collapse of British steel are the same as the ones to do with the closing of Redcar in 2015. There is a global glut in steel production, in large part due to the massive expansion of the chinese steel industry. This chinese steel is being effectively dumped on the european market. Redcar was looking for help from the govt, the EU was perfectly happy for it to go ahead, because it's kind of important for the EU to have a steel industry of some sort, just in case. The thing is that you'll never guess which country is the main barrier to acting against cheap chinese steel? I'll give you a clue, it's an EU country whose economy is mostly built around consumer borrowing based on a property bubble. A property bubble that might not respond well to an increase in steel prices. It's also a country whose main idea is to go around the world to every dubious economic hotspot and providing a safe haven for the money of those who are doing very well. This money further inflates the property bubble and the whole circus keeps on going. Still can't guess?

Oh I can't keep it in any more. It's the UK. What are 1700 jobs in redcar set against the flood of Chinese capital that was buying all these apartments and redeveloping manchester and birmingham. Where do people think the money for the 'northern powerhouse' was coming from? It's at around this time that chinese billionaires start buying football clubs in the midlands, and throwing money at the situation. And at the time of closing redcar, Osborne had just come back from a begging trip, sorry trade mission to China, and the UK was just about to announce that it was going to get China to help build its nuclear reactors.

[Ginger Yellow]

So much for Friday.

[Satchmo Distel]

She announces a timetable for departure tomorrow apparently so that would presumably be when the Leadership contest officially starts. I don't think the WA can get another reading under a lame duck leader because nobody's going to switch in those conditions.

[Duncan Gardner]

WAB = sometime schoolboy slang for penis. In Belfast anyway

[sw2borshch]

They noted that on Brexitcast the other day. Means tit here.

[Aitch]

Our headmaster at secondary school was called WAB.

[Antepli Ejderha]

Corbyn backs referendum on Brexit deal after voter exodus

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...y_to_clipboard

I suppose it's best here but I've also put it on the European Elections thread.

I really don't feel Corbyn has done badly on this, he would have been cast as a traitor if he'd gone for this early. Let's see what happens next.

[Lang Spoon]

Maybe Brexit has shown the limitations of a Pan UK Labour Party in a post indyref/Brexit world so, cos they are completely banjaxed in their old heartland now.

[Lang Spoon]

At least the Spainish socialists in Catalunya are from a different party in paper than the Spain wide lot.

[Sporting]

Bercow has indicated that he wants to stay on as Speaker, which is probably bad news for Brexiteers.

[Amor de Cosmos]

AdeC jr and his mates will be ecstatic. They've become viewers on a daily basis of the UK HoC, largely because of its pythonesque qualities, and Bercow is the biggest draw.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

I've got to say I'm tempted to post Kill this thread a hundred times like the Roy Keane thread back in the day. Unfortunately this thread could legitimately still be on the go in 10 years time.

[Snake Plissken]

Blaming the Tory voting shires and colonialism for Brexit instead of Labour voters in the North?

Doesn’t this man know how to stick to the narrative?

https://m.spiegel.de/international/e...-international