On FoM, Labour has no issue with May. That's the hill both parties are willing to die on, the rest i am not so sure...
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If you only read one Brexit article today, Dearbhail McDonald's piece on the backstop is excellent.
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I knew her quite well in College. She's class. She's also the sort of person that I simply wouldn't get into an argument with, Not unless I had developed a masochistic streak, and being systematically dismantled in an intellectually rigorous and publicly humiliating way was my thing.
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Nick Timothy has a variation on "Ireland needs to leave the EU".
If even an invisible Irish border is unacceptable to the EU, another option is available: a customs territory comprising the UK and Ireland. The republic could remain in the EU but leave its customs union, agreeing instead a common commercial policy including matching tariffs with the UK. This would protect Irish consumers and businesses: the republic imports more from the UK than from any EU country, and the UK is its second biggest European export market. It would also support Irish exports: 85 per cent of its freight trade to the continent uses British ports.
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Originally posted by Del Usory View PostFebruary recess suspended.
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1090976902586818562
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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View PostWhen did they come back from Christmas holidays?
I'll be having some awkward conversations with family this weekend about why it might not "be alright in the end" and why they really should consider stocking up on food and medicines right fricking now.
In terms of outcomes, I'd accept whichever one doesn't result in blood on the streets and a further emergence of the far right, but I have no idea which path gets us to that point.
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As I posted on a thread on Facebook, I can't help but think that if they just called the whole thing off, there might be a couple of minor skirmishes and the kippers would get back a few votes, but by the next election it'd be basically forgotten. Especially if the Tories actually kept their "austerity is over" promise.
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I tend to agree with Hobbes. You would have a minority of angry losers causing problems, it would be a good way to catch them and lock them up. It could get ugly in some forgotten shitholes for foreigners for a little while (very much concerned by this on a personnal level btw if you think i am being flippant) and the majority of discontent would be the kind that is always angry about the modern world yet never does anything.
As for killing the trust of those 'never voted before' types, well good, politics should be a bit more than just nihilist gestures to piss off those that have something to live for.
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Yeah I'm with Hobbes and MS, fuck these bams. The sort of twats that post Tommy Robinson shite on Facebook shouldn't decide policy. By placating this shower youse are risking proper mad bastards with guns in Nordie land setting everything on fire.
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- Jan 2012
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- Worthing
- The Hammers, until Mark Noble goes.(he's still there, sort of)
- Garibaldi, dipped in tea.
Originally posted by Moonlight shadow View PostI tend to agree with Hobbes. You would have a minority of angry losers causing problems, it would be a good way to catch them and lock them up. It could get ugly in some forgotten shitholes for foreigners for a little while (very much concerned by this on a personnal level btw if you think i am being flippant) and the majority of discontent would be the kind that is always angry about the modern world yet never does anything.
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Proper shitshow with 8 Labour frontbenchers not supporting Cooper's amendment, and not being sacked. Some sizeable majorities among them. Emma Lewell-Buck won last time by 35.6%. Hardly anybody who votes Labour sees No Deal Brexit as a point of principle.
This sort of bollocks is just feeding the narrative that the current extreme trajectory is the will of "working class Northerners", and makes it harder to get to anywhere sane.
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