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I'd love some reports from Football fan sites on how they see Brexit. In Oxford, a solidly remain area with BMW one major employer and the Universities being two others, there are lots of "gungho for no deal posts "
'For what it is worth, MPs accepted Hard Brexit was on the cards when they triggered Article 50. If they didn't believe it, they should have been better informed.
Interesting to see Poland's Foreign Ministers comments about a 5 year time limit on the back stop"
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"So basically Mrs May’s plan B is near enough the same as the original plan.
Great No deal looking better by the day. I’m all for it!"
Is this repeated across the country?
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It's dismal, and you have to wonder what thought processes are leading to these decisions and speeches (other than the desire to get through another day, of course). She's had the biggest parliamentary defeat of any PM and she's pretending it hasn't happened and that she can bring back essentially the same deal and no one is going to notice. The latest wheeze (apart from the headline grabbing £65) is that she'll consult more widely in the second phase, including people from outside Parliament, which isn't going to improve the mood of the MPs.
Pace seems to be gathering on the Cooper/Grieve amendment, but even that gives her another month of "seeking assurances on the backstop" and all the other nonsense.
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View PostI'd love some reports from Football fan sites on how they see Brexit. In Oxford, a solidly remain area with BMW one major employer and the Universities being two others, there are lots of "gungho for no deal posts "
'For what it is worth, MPs accepted Hard Brexit was on the cards when they triggered Article 50. If they didn't believe it, they should have been better informed.
Interesting to see Poland's Foreign Ministers comments about a 5 year time limit on the back stop"
and
"So basically Mrs May’s plan B is near enough the same as the original plan.
Great No deal looking better by the day. I’m all for it!"
Is this repeated across the country?
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- Jun 2017
- 2959
- A long way from Utopia.
- India, Ireland & numerous, numerous ABscenarios...
- Far too many, currently...
Pretty much to date, Nef.
Football fans, sadly, aren't noted for their profound political insights. In the main.
Also, pity Ireland going to be having the North dumped on them, when Britain'll no longer subsidise that particular economic black hole.
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I see a fair few such comments under Brexit related article in my local paper.
I just wonder what level of consequences these people are ready to accept from a No Deal until they finally admit they made a terrible choice. I fear a No Deal situation will be needed to kill off this vituperative, boneheaded strain of 'rebel' behaviour that seems so pervasive...
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It's a shot a ball from the mad Brexiters at the moment.
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1087399010946695168
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My mistake, it's more than a shot a ball.
https://twitter.com/Econs4FreeTrade/status/1087392403676413952
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Not-so-crypto populist, Matthew Goodwin, strikes again:
http://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1087353792629276673
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Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View PostAmendment from Labour giving options to avoid No Deal. Referendum is one of them. Other sounds like Norway Plus, albeit with "string Single Market deal" spoiling the effect.
Much better.
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Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
The one caveat is that it reads "with the single market" , rather than "in the single market", making it incompatible with an EEA solution.
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Ardent Brexiters will carry on blaming anybody but themselves but under a No Deal situation but i wonder how many of them they really will be left when the situation goes bad.
I just don't see any kind of positive outcome whatever steps are taken.
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View PostI'd love some reports from Football fan sites on how they see Brexit. In Oxford, a solidly remain area with BMW one major employer and the Universities being two others, there are lots of "gungho for no deal posts "
'For what it is worth, MPs accepted Hard Brexit was on the cards when they triggered Article 50. If they didn't believe it, they should have been better informed.
Interesting to see Poland's Foreign Ministers comments about a 5 year time limit on the back stop"
and
"So basically Mrs May’s plan B is near enough the same as the original plan.
Great No deal looking better by the day. I’m all for it!"
Is this repeated across the country?
The Tamworth message board seems to be towards the right, and the Twitter pages of some of the posters carry helpful hints such as retweets of Farage and Morgan, Union Jacks and profile text saying stuff like British and proud and no surrender.
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A political heavyweight writes.
https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1087473624884355073
They're voting for Grieve/Cooper, aren't they? Which would count as rebelling in my book. Aaron will be confused if Corbyn backs that too- he's keeping cards close to chest on that, quite rightly.
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Third time today the Brexit fantasists have charged down the wicket and missed the ball.
https://twitter.com/SpecCoffeeHouse/status/1087354499335897091
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- Jun 2017
- 2959
- A long way from Utopia.
- India, Ireland & numerous, numerous ABscenarios...
- Far too many, currently...
Looks like now we need an extreme event to trigger a change of direction.
This looks to be hopefully, no more than 2-3 months post-Brexit, I just pray not too many people suffer in the interim.
Or even die. Grim all round.
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View PostI'd love some reports from Football fan sites on how they see Brexit. In Oxford, a solidly remain area with BMW one major employer and the Universities being two others, there are lots of "gungho for no deal posts "
'For what it is worth, MPs accepted Hard Brexit was on the cards when they triggered Article 50. If they didn't believe it, they should have been better informed.
Interesting to see Poland's Foreign Ministers comments about a 5 year time limit on the back stop"
and
"So basically Mrs May’s plan B is near enough the same as the original plan.
Great No deal looking better by the day. I’m all for it!"
Is this repeated across the country?
2nd Referendum (possibility to overturn Brexit): 53.7%
Hard Brexit: 24.1%
No deal Brexit: 11.1%
PM's Deal: 8.3%
Anything else Brexit: 2.8%
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