Hmm, what will be the impact of breaking an international agreement (effectively with the EU) on their efforts to strike international trade deals? What would the word of the UK govt be worth then?
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Postthat's as likely to be about Ryanair and the Scottish Govt having a row over landing charges as much as anything else.Last edited by Lang Spoon; 27-02-2018, 23:24.
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Now the Holyrood Presiding Officer (speaker, SLab of course) has ruled the Brexit Continuity bill as outwith the Statelet’s powers. Despite much the same bill being presented to the far less powerful Welsh Assembly without issue. And the Lord Advocate approving it. Bring on the constitutional bondoogle. And hopefully the resignation of MacIntosh the sub Jim Murphy bam.
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EC publishes its withdrawal treaty proposal. May rejects it, unsurprisingly. The DUP must love this:
1. The provisions of Union law on goods listed in Annex 2.1 to this Protocol shall apply to and in the United Kingdom in respect of Northern Ireland.
2. Customs legislation as defined in point (2) of Article 5 of Regulation (EU) No 952/2013 of the European Parliament and of the Council138 as well as other provisions of Union law providing for customs controls of specific goods or for specific purposes listed in Annex 3 to this Protocol shall apply to and in the United Kingdom in respect of Northern Ireland. The territory of Northern Ireland, excluding the territorial waters of the United Kingdom (the "territory of Northern Ireland"), shall be considered to be part of the customs territory of the Union.
3. Customs duties on imports and exports, and any charges having equivalent effect, shall be prohibited between the Union and the United Kingdom in respect of Northern Ireland. This prohibition shall also apply to customs duties of a fiscal nature.
4. Quantitative restrictions on imports and exports and all measures having equivalent effect shall be prohibited between the Union and the United Kingdom in respect of Northern Ireland.
138 Regulation (EU) No 952/2013 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 9 October 2013 laying down the Union Customs Code (OJ L 269, 10.10.2013, p. 1).
5. The Union and the United Kingdom in respect of Northern Ireland shall not impose, directly or indirectly, on the products of the other party any internal taxation of any kind in excess of that imposed directly or indirectly on similar domestic products. Furthermore, the Union and the United Kingdom in respect of Northern Ireland shall not impose on the products of the other party any internal taxation of such a nature as to afford indirect protection to other products.
6. Paragraph 4 shall be without prejudice to the possibility for the United Kingdom, a Member State or the Union to take measures to prohibit or restrict the making available on its market of a good, or a category of goods, where and to the extent permitted by Union law. Such prohibitions or restrictions shall not, however, constitute a means of arbitrary discrimination or a disguised restriction on trade between the Union and Northern Ireland.
7. For the purposes of the customs legislation and the provisions of Union law listed in Annex 2.2 to this Protocol, the United Kingdom customs authorities competent for the territory of Northern Ireland shall be considered as customs authorities within the meaning of point (1) of Article 5 of Regulation (EU) No 952/2013. By way of derogation from Section 7 of Chapter 2 of Title I of Regulation (EU) No 952/2013, customs controls as defined in point (3) of Article 5 of that Regulation shall be carried out jointly by the Union and the United Kingdom customs authorities competent for the territory of Northern Ireland. The Union and the United Kingdom shall determine the practical arrangements for carrying out such controls in accordance with paragraph 10.
8. The provisions of Union law on value added tax listed in Annex 2.3 to this Protocol concerning goods shall apply to and in the United Kingdom in respect of Northern Ireland.
9. The provisions of Union law on excise duties listed in Annex 2.4 to this Protocol shall apply to and in the United Kingdom in respect of Northern Ireland.
10. Specific arrangements for the proper implementation of this Article shall be determined by the Joint Committee, upon proposal from the Specialised Committee. Those specific arrangements may, as appropriate, include a mechanism for revenue collection and distribution.
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1. As regards Chapter III, the institutions, bodies, offices, and agencies of the Union shall in relation to the United Kingdom, and natural and legal persons residing or established in the territory of the United Kingdom, have the powers conferred upon them by Union law. In particular, the Court of Justice of the European Union shall have jurisdiction as provided for in the Treaties in this respect. 2. Acts of the institutions, bodies, offices, and agencies adopted in accordance with paragraph 1 shall produce in respect of and in the United Kingdom the same legal effects as those which they produce within the Union and its Member States.
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Thornberry had an Urgent Question for Johnson after his comments yesterday. He chickened out.
Also, wonder what the gammons on the Costa Del Sol think of this one?
https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/968819130991370245
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wonder what the gammons on the Costa Del Sol think of this one?
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Originally posted by E10 Rifle View PostWhat does "gammon" mean in modern political parlance? I've come across it a fair bit but not being one of those Energised Politicised Young People, that they have now, have no idea what it means.
https://twitter.com/Errol_Flynn_/sta...20404909789184
edit: send SOS to Tubby, can't embed tweet
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- Jan 2012
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- Worthing
- The Hammers, until Mark Noble goes.(he's still there, sort of)
- Garibaldi, dipped in tea.
Originally posted by Flynnie View PostIt's a beaut, means the old, red, face like a slapped arse because of the booze white fellas who yells in the pub about how Brexit is taking back control innit.
https://twitter.com/Errol_Flynn_/sta...20404909789184
edit: send SOS to Tubby, can't embed tweet
There's a fella on Twitter who uses it a lot, but has started to wonder whether - as it's only used to describe white people - it's racist.
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Originally posted by Etienne View PostI can't imagine anyone is going to be persuaded, but John Major's done a good speech and Q&A here. Odd to remember how ineffective he was as a PM when he now seems a political titan to the current crop of Tories.
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Originally posted by ad hoc View PostWell presumably they are happy in Spain and have no great desire to move to any other EU state. It's people who might want to move around a bit in the EU who are fucked. Me, for example.
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Major's had a book of reappraisal published recently.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbo...-ben-williams/
The authors let John Redwood write a chapter, which I'll leave out when I read it.Last edited by Tubby Isaacs; 28-02-2018, 17:36.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Postyeah, but I suppose doing it because you have to, is an entirely different prospect to doing so because you want to. The element of compulsion would drive me mental.Last edited by Lang Spoon; 28-02-2018, 17:47.
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Originally posted by E10 Rifle View PostReminds me, must look into applying for an Oirish one. Though my partner and kids wouldn't be eligiible.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Postyeah, but I suppose doing it because you have to, is an entirely different prospect to doing so because you want to. The element of compulsion would drive me mental.
(a Hungarian passport has advantages over a Romanian one though. Schengen, visa free travel to places like China and the USA)
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Originally posted by E10 Rifle View PostI think so yeah
Daire O'Briain actually was talking about this sort of thing in his new show. A big bit was given over to passport practicalities and children. Informative, and entertaining.
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