The 25 miles from Middlesbrough to Sunderland takes 58 minutes or so on the train.
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Originally posted by Fussbudget View PostNef, but we're talking about fast and direct intercity journeys here, aren't we? There are only 6 direct trains a day between Sunderland and York, for example, even though the distance would be fairly commutable. I wouldn't say Sunderland is particularly well connected to anywhere outside its immediate area (and that's with big satellite towns like Washington and Peterlee not even having train stations.)
Tubbs, from experience those particular 30-year-old trains are rubbish, slow and uncomfortable, and are used on journeys of up to 3-4 hours.
The train from Sunderland to London isn't terrible (3 hours 2O minutes odd) but it goes via Hartlepool and avoids York as I recall.Last edited by Nefertiti2; 17-11-2017, 23:00.
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Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View PostI suppose a bus station can be built on at a later date, but a shopping centre?!Last edited by Lang Spoon; 17-11-2017, 22:57.
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Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View PostIs that because of that loop it does through Stockton (by the look of it)?
Is there no way it could go straight up the coast?
That's only part of the reason why the journey takes so long, there's also the fact that every service stops at every stop on the line with no express service between the bigger towns, and trains on that line are also super slow (45mph tops) for some reason.Last edited by Fussbudget; 17-11-2017, 23:28.
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But if you compare interlocking regional conurbations similar to Newcastle/Sunderland/Teeside with a population of about 1.5 million to its equivalent in say Germany its one way to see how chronic the underinvestment in infrastructure has been. London is pretty much the only part of the Uk with funcitoning public transport.
In Germany an area of that size there would be integrated train bus S bahn across the region with one ticket, affordable weekly/monthly season tickets for commuters kids and suddenly public space is public and available to all.
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Originally posted by Lang Spoon View PostCan’t see Wales on there. Have they decided just to keep sellotaping their shitey old trains together?
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- Apr 2011
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- A bottom-bottom wata-wata in Lake Titicaca
- Atlético Machu Picchu, Lake Titicaca Pan flutes FC
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Just £1 spent on North East transport for every £9 spent in London
Not just the north east of course:
(2016)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7177656.html
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That’s still the biggest surprise to me, you can’t walk six feet in Wales without seeing a funded by the EU sign on something.
I know somebody posted an article a few months ago that talked about Wales and how local people felt a load of money on a community fitness centre was a boondoggle, but there’s practically nothing else around that wasn’t EU funded.
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- Apr 2011
- 2053
- A bottom-bottom wata-wata in Lake Titicaca
- Atlético Machu Picchu, Lake Titicaca Pan flutes FC
- Buñuelos Arequipeños
Cornwall (Leave: 56.5%) also massively benefited from various EU grants, support and regeneration funds. From the Times of 10 Nov. (Candy Atherton’s obit):
As the Labour MP for Falmouth and Cambourne, Atherton left a significant legacy. She was instrumental in browbeating Tony Blair into delivering Objective One, an initiative that directed more than £2 billion of European funding to Cornwall to improve NHS and university facilities, transport infrastructure and superfast broadband.
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Originally posted by Flynnie View PostThat’s still the biggest surprise to me, you can’t walk six feet in Wales without seeing a funded by the EU sign on something.
I know somebody posted an article a few months ago that talked about Wales and how local people felt a load of money on a community fitness centre was a boondoggle, but there’s practically nothing else around that wasn’t EU funded.
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Originally posted by Kev7 View PostCornwall (Leave: 56.5%) also massively benefited from various EU grants, support and regeneration funds. From the Times of 10 Nov. (Candy Atherton’s obit):
As the Labour MP for Falmouth and Cambourne, Atherton left a significant legacy. She was instrumental in browbeating Tony Blair into delivering Objective One, an initiative that directed more than £2 billion of European funding to Cornwall to improve NHS and university facilities, transport infrastructure and superfast broadband.
Of course, in the greater scheme of things, the fishing industry is small, and isn't going to be a huge priority in negotiations. At the moment, we might be exporting to the EEA by bankers having a quota they can carry in their briefcase.
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automotive, medicine research, aerospace, farming, universities, retail, banking, energy, environmental NGOs, consumer protection, construction
He'll be getting fishing, food processing, hospitality, tourism, car manufacturing through the door in due course.
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Long piece on Ireland and Brexit it's apparent that the British side don't appreciate that EU membership means that Ireland is no longer the junior partner economically dependent on its former colonial masters.
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