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    UK (Wales), YouGov poll:

    Brexit is...

    Right: 42%
    Wrong: 47%

    #Brexit #Wales
    7:09 am - 20 Oct 2017

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        Airbus becomes majority stakeholder in manufacture of bombardier sanctions plane

        Airbus have basically just taken over production of this airplane, and moved final assembly within the US to get around the various sanctions and tariffs. So it seems as though the bombardier plant in belfast are going to be making wings for airbus. And there's nothing in this world that is more secure than the future of Airbus's UK based wings manufacturing process.

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          Starmer says that he wants the Charter of Fundamental Rights incorporated into UK law.

          The Charter includes Freedom of Movement.

          What's going on? Anything coherent?

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            A long and interesting read on the finances and alleged business acumen of creepy fucker Aaron Banks

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              The sooner that awful little oik is made to sweat over his dealings, the better....

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                Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
                Airbus becomes majority stakeholder in manufacture of bombardier sanctions plane

                Airbus have basically just taken over production of this airplane, and moved final assembly within the US to get around the various sanctions and tariffs. So it seems as though the bombardier plant in belfast are going to be making wings for airbus. And there's nothing in this world that is more secure than the future of Airbus's UK based wings manufacturing process.


                Making wings is a step forward from growing wings I suppose...

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                  It's another Juncker/May dinner diary

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                    That leak seems to fit perfectly the narrative of the hard brexiters, certainly not the EU's....wondering who exactly leaks that stuff...

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                      I read it more as the EU being nice to May, by politely telling her "No" because otherwise they'll have to deal with Boris.

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                        Financial Times‏Verified account
                        @FT
                        Banks plan to shift Asian trading from London to HK
                        There's a big world outside Europe. We can lose business to there as well.
                        Last edited by Tubby Isaacs; 23-10-2017, 12:19.

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                          Strategic policy genius, Nick Timothy, has accused Martin Selmayr of leaking.

                          Selmayr is annoyed.

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                            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a8015006.html

                            Manufacturing firms' building investment intentions are back down to their weakest in eight years according to the CBI's latest survey of the sector.

                            The net balance for new capital spending on buildings over the next 12 months plunged to -30 per cent in October, the lowest since July 2009.

                            The net balance for plant and machinery investment spending also slipped to -7 per cent.
                            March of the makers, who are looking forward to trading with the rest of the world.

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                              Originally posted by E10 Rifle View Post
                              A long and interesting read on the finances and alleged business acumen of creepy fucker Aaron Banks
                              That is a very interesting read. As are the comments underneath, for a variety of reasons.

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                                May has implied that the government will not implement a transition period unless there is a deal on trade too by next autumn. David Davis, the Brexit secretary, said this last week and May’s spokesman said the same at lobby this morning.
                                Brilliant negotiation, brilliant.

                                We won't let you give us something we want unless you do what we say.

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                                  Given that Kool Aid will be prohibitively expensive to import by March 1999, you can only think that the Government's plan is to stockpile large quantities of cyanide and lemon barley water. Maybe get the BBC to repeat the Peter O'Toole Masada mini-series a few times to keep the nudge theorists happy.

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                                    Barnier states that any national parliament would be able to veto an EU-UK deal, and indeed, why would the Dáil approve an arrangement that took the UK out of the Single Market?

                                    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41733429

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                                      Well, technically what Barnier's talking about would be after the UK left the single market already.

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                                        But the deal would need to be sorted before we left. Ireland and allies could refuse to sign anything that didn't preserve the single market or similar. So WTO for us.

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                                          Yes, but that isn't what Barnier was referring to when he was referring to the likely need for Member State Parliament ratification.

                                          The initial "deal" requires ratification by the Council and the European Parliament.

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                                            this is all just fine.

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                                              He ought to have been booted out before when he was caught red-handed helping a rival candidate in a by-election.

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                                                His mob don't understand institutions. A majority in Parliament means they should directly control anybody receiving public money.

                                                Or lack of majority, as the case may be.

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                                                    Some interesting opinion polls .

                                                    Most think it will have a negative ompact on the British economy

                                                    Positive: 30%

                                                    Negative: 46%

                                                    No difference: 13%

                                                    Net: -16

                                                    And on their own finances

                                                    Impact on your personal finances

                                                    Positive: 13%

                                                    Negative: 35%

                                                    No difference: 38%

                                                    Net: -22

                                                    Almost 50% of voters do not expect the Brexit talks to conclude successfully. Only 30% of people expect a successful outcome to negotiations.
                                                    Respondents were told the Brexit negotiations will have to end by 29 March 2019 and were asked if they expected them to end successfully or unsuccessfully. The results were:

                                                    Conclude successfully: 30%

                                                    Not conclude successfully: 45%

                                                    Don’t know: 25%

                                                    A majority of voters say they will react negatively if Britain leaves the EU without a deal. Only 20% say they would react positively.
                                                    This is significant because polls have repeatedly shown that, if you ask people if they would prefer no deal to a bad deal, they will back no deal by a large margin. (See here and here, for example.) This is a boost for Theresa May because “no deal is better than a bad deal” is her mantra and there is some evidence that the government is beefing up preparations for the possibility of a no deal.

                                                    The pro-Brexit Tory MP John Redwood claimed at the weekend that recent comments from Angela Merkel show that EU leaders are “very worried at just how popular the WTO model [ie, leaving with no deal] is with many UK voters”.

                                                    But our polling suggests Redwood has got this very wrong. We tried to assess how people would feel if the UK were to leave the EU without a deal. Respondents were asked to imagine the UK and the EU failing to reach agreement by Brexit day and to then pick two of the responses that would best describe their emotions. The results were:

                                                    Worried: 50%

                                                    Confused: 29%

                                                    Furious: 24%

                                                    Pleased: 14%

                                                    Would feel nothing: 13%

                                                    Terrified: 12%

                                                    Proud: 11%

                                                    Excited: 11%

                                                    Net negative (all those choosing at least 1 negative response): 62%

                                                    Net positive: 20%


                                                    (down 6 from ICM in September)


                                                    Impact on life in Britain generally

                                                    Positive: 35%

                                                    Negative: 38%

                                                    No difference: 15%

                                                    Net: -3 (down 4)

                                                    Labour and Tories tied on 42%,

                                                    Labour: 42% (up 1 from Guardian/ICM two weeks ago)

                                                    Conservatives: 42% (up 1)

                                                    Lib Dems: 7% (no change)

                                                    Ukip: 3% (down 1)

                                                    Greens: 2% (no change)

                                                    Jeremy Corbyn has a clear lead over Theresa May on the matter of who is seen to be doing a good job, the poll suggests.
                                                    Finally, we also asked people if they thought the following people were doing a good or bad job. Here are the results.

                                                    Theresa May

                                                    Good job: 34%

                                                    Bad job: 50%

                                                    Net: -16

                                                    Jeremy Corbyn

                                                    Good job: 37%

                                                    Bad job: 43%

                                                    Net: -6

                                                    Philip Hammond

                                                    Good job: 20%

                                                    Bad job: 46%

                                                    Net: -26

                                                    Boris Johnson

                                                    Good job: 26%

                                                    Bad job: 52%

                                                    Net: -26

                                                    David Davis

                                                    Good job: 25%

                                                    Bad job: 43%

                                                    Net: -18

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