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    Is it Blackpool has the pleasure of hosting Racist pensioners sociopaths laffer curve weirdos the Forces of Darkness and Michelle Mone this year? Once got kicked out of our room to go to some horrible self catering pit back in the 80s cos Maggie's gang were in town. Cunts.

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      Ho ho ho, he's such a Lege.

      In a potentially provocative move, he also explained to reporters before a meeting with his EU counterparts in Tallinn, Estonia, that the EU had a legal duty to discuss trade relations. “Article 50 makes it very clear that the discussion about the exit for a country must be taken in the context of a discussion of the future arrangements, and that’s what we are going to do,” Johnson said.
      This is such a strong legal argument that nobody noticed it till today.

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        Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
        Is it Blackpool has the pleasure of hosting Racist pensioners sociopaths laffer curve weirdos the Forces of Darkness and Michelle Mone this year? Once got kicked out of our room to go to some horrible self catering pit back in the 80s cos Maggie's gang were in town. Cunts.
        It's Manchester, a real hotbed of Toryism. Think they have 2 seats out of 27 in Greater Manchester at the moment. They might have none before too long, with reliable Altrincham and Sale West trending against them with "Cold Feet" style middle class liberals, and the very marginal Bolton West.

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          Oh hang on. They have Cheadle and Hazel Grove too.

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            Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View Post
            Ho ho ho, he's such a Lege.
            This is such a strong legal argument that nobody noticed it till today.
            I'd hardly call it very clear.

            Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

            A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3)[5] of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council [of the European Union], acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.

            The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

            For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.

            A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

            If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.
            Last edited by Snake Plissken; 08-09-2017, 19:44. Reason: Edited because I missed it.

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              Hang on, didn't the British in the persona of David Davis agree to this timetable of negotiations? Early summer? It's hard to know what's real and what's a fever dream.

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                He did. He rightly surmised that "take account of" doesn't mean much.

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                  Well it just seems to say that the concluded agreement will take account of the future arrangements. That doesn't say anything about when you should discuss each little part. The problem that the EU has is that the only thing it knows about the UK's position is that they want out of the ECJ and FOM, and that they want to leave the single market and the customs union, to discuss their own trade deals. (Everything else is extraordinarily hazy)

                  The thing is that if you want to leave the single market and the customs union, there simply isn't going to be a future trading relationship to speak of. The UK is taking the Belarus option.

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                    I'm feart they're playing for no deal. Dreams of gated London Dubai/Singapore lovely countryside Ruritania, workfare for all beyond the rim.

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                      Of course they're playing for no deal. Pacifying the fucking headbangers who think we can just tell the EU to fuck off and that's that.

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                        Pretty much been an open secret since the spring. German elections out of the way, we walk away citing intransigence from the EU.

                        Liam Fox the other day complained that he had trade deals that he couldn't sign because he didn't have enough negotiators available. Not a single one of the well educated press pack managed to ask the question "If the deal is ready to sign... why do you need negotiators?"

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                          It's especially mad to combine Imperial Nostalgia with self-sufficient autarchy bollocks. Smells a bit.. Mosley.

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                            Smells a bit Farage. Old Spice, Nationalism, and a heaping helping of bullshit.

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                              Heavyweight legal genius, Charlie Elphick, has published a paper with a lawyer that says we don't owe anything to the EU.

                              It's non stop legal manna for Brexit. Johnson will be claiming Cicero appeared to him in a dream next.

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                                Who the fuck would sign a trade deal on favorable terms with a bunch of fannies that just shat all over their last big obligation. If they pay no divorce bill they will be a junk rating IMF circling floundering mess. Oh joy. It's arms deals to every bastard with hard currency and nowt else but being smiling supplicants of the Heritage Service industry. The collapsing currency makes U.K. The perfect place to holiday! Soon prostitution will once more become a Great British job, with all the foreign s gone and thousands desperate and on their absolute uppers.

                                If Hammond and Soubry et al end up going along with it all they are as impressively passionately having unshakeable convictions as Vince Cable.

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                                  The government has plenty of law officers, you'd think. They've doubtless already had the "killer" Article 50 quote run by them, and they laughed.

                                  Boris and Charlie Elphick reckon they can do a better job.

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                                    How long can a "no deal" walk out last? The pound'll be fucked even more, and parties don't come back from big devaluations.

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                                      The FT have something embargoed for the front page tmrw. To be revealed at midnight, apparently.

                                      It might not even be the top story, so don't get too excited.

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                                        Never mind, the master negotiator backs our approach.

                                        Politics BBC Radio 4‏ @r4politics 6h
                                        Varoufakis tells @tnewtondunn UK should back out of Brexit talks now or bypass Barnier.
                                        There speaks a man with a book to sell.

                                        In trmw's show, the Sheriff from Blazing Saddles backs the UK's strategy.
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                                          Farage probably puts Old Spice on his pubes.

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                                            Fuck sake, first the love for Pale Rider Assange, now this bollocks. That makes him more an eejit than Paul Mason now, by my reckoning. Fucking hell, I used to have some respect for Varoufakis, would you take me by the hand (one for the Steely Dan fans)
                                            Last edited by Lang Spoon; 09-09-2017, 02:17.

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                                              "Bypass Barnier" is pure Farage. He didn't exactly do very well going "straight to Merkel", did he?

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                                                Varoufakis's book is very interesting and well-written and pretty bang on as a set text for constructive Left Remainerism. I'd recommend it, though he has a certain academic's arrogance.

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                                                  but Barnier is there precisely so the others don't have to put up with the UK's shite.

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                                                    He is 27 in one. They already tried lurking around the Baltics playing a pathetic security card, the only possible country that might be pre-disposed toward you (the no weather at all 26 county zone on the BBC maps) has stopped even being polite over the pish coming from these wanks. It's a potentially disastrous side effect of Brexit that British incompetence and delusion makes Varadkar look the rational actor and almost statesmanlike. Fine Gael returning with more seats and that's that for progressive fuck all or any chance of thinking about mass building of social housing for the kids who will never be able to buy.

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