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    UK to withdraw from EU aviation safety regulator, Shapps says

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...droidApp_Gmail

    “As you would expect from an independent nation, we can’t be subject to the rules and laws made by somebody else, so we can’t accept rules from the EU commission and we can’t accept rulings in terms of court cases from the European court of justice or anybody else, any more than the US would,” he told Aviation Week in Washington.
    They cannot resist chucking in a line about independence can they?

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      Last I looked, the UK was a member of the ICC. It is also planning to sign up to the Hague Convention, under which its courts will enforce rulings in other signatory countries.

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        Indeed, the UK has a judge (Howard Morrison) on the ICC and has had a number of judges on the ICJ (though Christopher Greenwood's term expired recently). The US, of course, is also a member of the ICJ and has a current judge. And let's not mention the WTO dispute settlement mechanisms.

        Their ignorance knows no bounds.

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          Johnson confirms there will be checks at Warrenpoint, Belfast and Larne.

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            A month and a half to go, folks.

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              It's a no deal Brexit then. We were fucked before now it's going to be like necrophilia.

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                I dunno, I can see them using the pandemic as an excuse to extend. He doesn't have to face the electorate any time soon and has a big enough majority to ignore any pouting ERGers.

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                  Originally posted by Ginger Yellow View Post
                  I dunno, I can see them using the pandemic as an excuse to extend. He doesn't have to face the electorate any time soon and has a big enough majority to ignore any pouting ERGers.
                  I can see the opposite, using Coronavirus to justify the Brexit no deal mess...

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                    Johnson has already said there will be no extension, it would be so easy to get one and reach a proper deal if that was the aim. Exceptional circumstances and all that. But they clearly don't want a deal.

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                      I think Moonlight Shadow is correct. The economy is so fucked right now and everything generally is so fucked that they're hoping that the chaos from a No Deal Brexit will go under the radar or just get lumped in as part of the Coronavirus chaos.

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                        La Signora's cousin and his wife (avid Leavers both) were congratulating themselves on managing to get their hands on some Lithuanian flour the other day. Their lack of connection between this and membership of the EU was an audible "Huh?"
                        Last edited by Amor de Cosmos; 21-05-2020, 22:25.

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                          https://twitter.com/GerardAraud/status/1263509801046245376?s=20

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                            You can always judge the state of the nation by the adverts on Talksport.

                            2 months ago it was funeral directors. Now, it's "Pick For Britain".

                            "Get some dirt in your nails, and the sun on your back!".


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                              Customs training preparations are a shitshow, to nobody's surprise.

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                                Paywall

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                                  I don't understand why the term "no deal Brexit" has been changed lately. The UK avoided what had previously been termed a "no deal Brexit "by agreeing the withdrawal agreement with the EU. This meant that there was a transition period to agree a trade deal (which we are now in).

                                  Now the term seems to be used to describe the situation where we don't agree a *trade* deal with the EU. I can understand how the term "no deal Brexit" might be apposite for this situation when considered in isolation, but it just muddies the waters and confuses matters to use the same term for this as for the previous situation, surely?

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                                    Not sure if it was posted elsewhere, but the news yesterday that Nissan were continuing in Sunderland and closing plants outside the UK led to a wave of pro-Brexit and anti-remainer comments. In the manner of "proof that Brexit WAS justified" and "remainers WANTED the Sunderland plant to close". Fucking hell.

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                                      I have some sympathy for the argument that had the decision gone the other way, remainers would have been loudly proclaiming it as a result of Brexit. Going the steps on to what Arturo posted is obviously not justified.

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                                        Originally posted by Jimski View Post
                                        I don't understand why the term "no deal Brexit" has been changed lately. The UK avoided what had previously been termed a "no deal Brexit "by agreeing the withdrawal agreement with the EU. This meant that there was a transition period to agree a trade deal (which we are now in).

                                        Now the term seems to be used to describe the situation where we don't agree a *trade* deal with the EU. I can understand how the term "no deal Brexit" might be apposite for this situation when considered in isolation, but it just muddies the waters and confuses matters to use the same term for this as for the previous situation, surely?
                                        It's always meant no trade deal. The Withdrawal agreement only ever covered the mechanics of actually leaving. (Have you paid your bill, guaranteed rights of eu citizens in your country etc)

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                                          https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1266639762653351936

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                                            I am becoming increasingly convinced that evangelical protestantism is a form of voluntary brain damage.

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                                              Haven't you always been 100% sure?

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