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    thanks for that. Snake.

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      Alexandra Bulat has a promising future:

      http://twitter.com/alexandrabulat/status/1135146272233594881

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        Is there a dedicated "Brexit Party" thread?



        Or do we post the utterances of their headline members in here?
        https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....ality-11733559

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          Nick Boles gave a great response to this.

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            Lexiter Larry is in flying form.

            Even putting to one side the fact that many of today’s remainers were gung-ho for the euro in 2003, this is still a curious argument. Because if you’ve got doubts about the euro you should have doubts about Europe’s entire direction of travel. The euro is Europe’s single biggest project. It was intended to be a symbol both of progress towards ever-deeper union and the means of achieving still further integration. This is not some add-on extra, it is what Europe is all about.

            Yet the design flaws that were obvious from the outset have become ever more apparent, and there’s no immediate prospect of fixing them. French president Emmanuel Macron thinks more integration – a banking union and a European finance minister – is what’s needed to make the euro work. This would mean German taxpayers writing cheques for the rest of Europe, and there is not the slightest possibility of that happening.

            The reality is that Europe has a currency that doesn’t work, an economy that doesn’t work and a political process that doesn’t work. Corbyn is often accused of being starry-eyed about the possibility of creating a socialist utopia in Britain and forever harking back to his formative years in the 1970s. But he is not nearly as starry-eyed as some of his critics, who seem to think either that an earthly paradise already exists on the other side of the Channel, or that with a few judicious tweaks there will soon be one.


            you'd never get the impression from this that the euro is nearly 20 years old, and the currency that 341 million people use every day, or that 36% of international trade is conducted in the euro, which is just short of the dollar. (It's also worth noting that oil is bought and sold in dollars) The other thing is that the faults he identifies in the Euro, i.e. a lack of a banking union, and the lack of a centralized mechanism for redistribution would still exist if the euro didn't exist, because those are necessary for the proper operation of the single market. The other thing is that the Euro is great for most of the countries in it. The problem with the average statistics is that Italy France, spain and greece make up half of the eurozone, and they have problems that are entirely unrelated to the euro, and would still exist even if they had their own currencies. They're just badly run, and they're badly run in ways that long predate the euro.

            It's not hard to come across these sorts of views, but always from the UK or The US. It's a lot harder to doubt the existence of the Euro, if you have been using it for half your life, or if you come from a country that never had a really independent currency policy anyway. Another thing that seems to be missing from this is that the Euro is the only major currency, which has goals of macro-economic stability, counter-cyclical fiscal policy, and the avoidance of bubbles built into it The issues with the eurozone aren't the rules, it's that a small number of large countries refuse to abide by them.
            Last edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 06-06-2019, 13:14.

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              The woman charged with preparing the post-Brexit border has resigned.

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                Rock on, Rockall!

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                  Ha! The first break in the Celtic Entente... SNP must be trying to win back some of the People of the Fish vote...

                  would of course be better if nasty near slavery conditions stock destroying factory ships of either side are banned from fishing those waters. But this industry has a Romantic power way beyond its economic value.

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                    Scottish Labour joins its Welsh counterpart and campaigns to Remain in a confirmatory vote:

                    http://twitter.com/KennyFarq/status/1137336431041490944

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                      Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                      hmm, Scotland is going to have to learn to wait to speak, until it is spoken to.

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                        It's a feint to try and win back the unspeakable fish people of the NE from the Tories.

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                          Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                          Scottish Labour joins its Welsh counterpart and campaigns to Remain in a confirmatory vote:

                          http://twitter.com/KennyFarq/status/1137336431041490944
                          Richard Leonard will ignore this until or unless Corbyn finally backs the policy for the Big Party. Slab will have to split from the mothership soon or go the way of the SSP.

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                            http://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1137456686501904384

                            Because bribery always works ...

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                              Somebody should tell the Saj that we don't think that £500 million is a lot of money. it's about 0.2% of Gdp, or 0.3% of GNI. £500 billion might pique our interest, but I don't think the UK can afford that.

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                                Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                                Scottish Labour joins its Welsh counterpart and campaigns to Remain in a confirmatory vote:

                                http://twitter.com/KennyFarq/status/1137336431041490944
                                Is this because they are both losing votes to the Nationalists?

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                                  Davison doesn’t have a vote does she?

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                                    Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post

                                    Is this because they are both losing votes to the Nationalists?
                                    In Wales it's because Brexit is going to be devastating for us. And possibly because Welsh Labour is actually a party of government so can't get bum splinters and blame the Tories for everything. Mark Drakeford the first minister has always been Remain.

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                                      Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
                                      Somebody should tell the Saj that we don't think that £500 million is a lot of money. it's about 0.2% of Gdp, or 0.3% of GNI. £500 billion might pique our interest, but I don't think the UK can afford that.
                                      Holy shit. That's the political equivalent of saying "here's a tin of pop and a bag of crisps, now fuck off outside while we get down to some serious drinking."

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                                        This is terrible

                                        https://twitter.com/josephwillits/status/1137807015475064832

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                                          Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
                                          Sajid Javid intervened and granted an emergency visa because the family was originally told to wait.

                                          At least they've arrested some people. I just hope the poor kid pulls through.

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                                            UK GDP declines by 0.4% in April.

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                                              Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                                              UK GDP declines by 0.4% in April.
                                              That can't be related to Brexit as Brexit hasn't happened. Or so the rubbish argument goes.

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                                                Well, it is, but then so were recent GDP increases. You have to look at the bigger picture rather than just selecting one bad statistic like DR did:


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                                                  A rare poll where every major party wins, as ChUK and UKIP support dissipates:

                                                  http://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1138554485373116417

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                                                    http://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1138560501452038144

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