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    Originally posted by Snake Plissken View Post
    Two Tory rebels is two more than they would have got if Labour had gone full three line whip.
    The Government was defeated by a three-line whipped Labour accompanied by Tory rebels just over a week ago. It's happened multiple times since the election, excluding unopposed Opposition Day debates. But I understand where you're coming from.
    Last edited by Lucy Waterman; 29-01-2019, 20:34.

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      The Spellman-Dromey amendment isn’t binding though, the spineless Soubrys of this world still have to actually vote against this government to prevent no deal.

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        No legal force in Spelman-Dromey, mind.

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          Who knew Sabrina the teenage witch had such sway over parliament?

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            14 Labour MPs against Cooper, plus Hopkins and Field.

            I reckon Soubry probably voted for.

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              Is No Deal very likely now?

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                18 Tories voted for Cooper.

                Pound has fallen with Cooper being defeated.

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                  Labour MPs who voted against the Yvette Cooper amendment: presumably Labour Gammon constituencies? Source here:




                  Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 29-01-2019, 20:43.

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                    Sorry, 17 did.

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                      Brady amendment has passed 317-301.

                      How long does Barnier give it?

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                        3 of those Labour MPs support May's deal, which is at least a policy. What do those other goons want?

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                          Now we're fucked; May's kicking the can down the road and pretending the EU might move on the backstop now has a Commons mandate.

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                            At least Tusk ruled it out instantly.

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                              Tusk has already said fuck off with yer Brady.

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                                Doomed. The 6th biggest economy in the world has voted to turn itself into Argentina.

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                                  Stinking rotten bastards. Fuck knows what happens to hospitals and medicine and food and everything else. Foodbanks for all (but they will have empty shelves).

                                  Maybe my mum should try risk flying to ireland late March if she needs chemo. Let alone my dad if he will need insulin for his diabetes.

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                                    A curse on every leave voter, every Proud Unionist Tory or Slab areshole in Scotchland, every fucking Dupper bigot voting with their surname, every blasé golf club bore, every petit bourgeoise Oop North cunt. Blood on your hands.

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                                      Being in the UK at this time simply makes me feel European and like I just want these cunts to fuck off. It's tragic for a lot of people who I care about but this fucking country just needs to realise how fucking insignificant it is. Bunch of cunts.

                                      (present company excepted, obv)

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                                        I get that it's a tempting feeling but for me it's incompatible with trying to help the weakest, and who will be the greatest victims of all this.

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                                          If Cooper had won, then I still think there was a possibility of stopping this or getting something Norwayesque. Now it's May's deal or no deal.

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                                            I think May has committed to taking her own deal off the table.

                                            We are in End Times now.

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                                              No, I don't think so. May knows the EU are going to reject the backstop changes. So she's hoping she'll either get enough of a fudge to fool the ERG or (more likely) that enough Labour MPs will choose her deal over no deal.

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                                                I want out of this country / banana republic / wannabe tax haven.

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                                                  I think we're now stuck between No Deal and a Unicorn Impossible Deal, in theory. Which I suspect is May's intention. Because it might force people to demand that she revert back the current withdrawal agreement when faced with those two alternatives.

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                                                    Originally posted by Etienne View Post
                                                    If Cooper had won, then I still think there was a possibility of stopping this or getting something Norwayesque. Now it's May's deal or no deal.
                                                    Can't you get to Norway with May's deal?

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