The Brexit Thread

[Satchmo Distel]

Can any of the 27 countries veto it? If so, it was even more criminal to trigger Article 50 without a plan.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Daniel K's masterplan? Think that's QMV.

[ursus arctos]

No, the text of Article 50 expressly requires a unanimous vote in the European Council

The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

Approval of the withdrawal agreement is by Qualified Majority Vote.

[Diable Rouge]

Patriotic Brexiteer CEO moves his business to Singapore.

[Ginger Yellow]

Can any of the 27 countries veto it? If so, it was even more criminal to trigger Article 50 without a plan.

Yup. It requires a unanimous decision in Council. Bear in mind the government has fiercely fought any attempt to keep extension as an option from the UK side.The whole point was to impose a fixed timeframe so they could ram through an unpopular withdrawal agreement.

[Nocturnal Submission]

Patriotic Brexiteer CEO moves his business to Singapore.

Tubby's going to be annoyed that you posted that before he did.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I don't quite know what it means in terms of tax revenues. Anybody know?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Good Lord. Hadn't seen this from Gardner.Maugham is happy he didn't mean it.

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1087265219120898049

[Lang Spoon]

I've no time for the Jolyons, but fuck me Gardiner is up there for useless and dangerous posh scots Labour Big Beasts.

[Lang Spoon]

Uniting the 52 and 48 just sounds like FoM will stay off the table in Labour Wonderland. So the whole thing remains a ball of smoke (and can hide behind spurious State Aid nonsense if wanting to appear less racist appeasing triangulators in terms of rejecting SM when taking to less "unreconstructed" voters.

[ursus arctos]

Presumably, the Dyson move means that the group is no longer subject to UK corporation tax (though its permanent establishments in the UK still would be).

Given that they reported profit of more than a billion pounds last year, that isn't an inconsequential sum.

[Lang Spoon]

That's Can-Do Brexit spirit.

[Ginger Yellow]

The practical tax consequences are presumably going to depend on how it's structured, and the extent to which they engage in IP licensing shenanigans (and the transfer price rulings they get in doing so).

[Tubby Isaacs]

Uniting the 52 and 48 just sounds like FoM will stay off the table in Labour Wonderland. So the whole thing remains a ball of smoke (and can hide behind spurious State Aid nonsense if wanting to appear less racist appeasing triangulators in terms of rejecting SM when taking to less "uneconstructed" voters.

I think State Aid's been dropped, because it fucks up the customs union policy too, in fairness to them. I think the most likely course now is that they back freedom of movement/a second referendum very late in a "you've totally lost control of the situation" kind of way. Which might come off, but I'd prepare ground to have been laid.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Drakeford pushing for a second referendum if no agreed policy next week.

[Lang Spoon]

Is he any better than Carwyn Jones? From afar he seems a bit of a lump, party hack.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Haven't noticed. Jones was ok.

[Nefertiti2]

Uniting the 52 and 48 just sounds like FoM will stay off the table in Labour Wonderland. So the whole thing remains a ball of smoke (and can hide behind spurious State Aid nonsense if wanting to appear less racist appeasing triangulators in terms of rejecting SM when taking to less "unreconstructed" voters.

Uniting the 52 and the 48 (or those of us who have been fucked by austerity for the past 9 years sounds like a very good idea. Affordable housing, security of tenure, free education, decent wages, public libraries, public transport, clean air local government and functioning democracy are all necessary.

[johnr]

Guy is on the warpath...https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/s...123739136?s=19

[Lang Spoon]

The sort of stuff the UK would have soon snuffed out or watered down to nothing if hadn't abdicated being part of the EU. Don't see Italy or the Visegards being too warm toward this however, let alone neutral states.

[Lang Spoon]

Uniting the 52 and the 48 (or those of us who have been fucked by austerity for the past 9 years sounds like a very good idea. Affordable housing, security of tenure, free education, decent wages, public libraries, public transport, clean air local government and functioning democracy are all necessary.

None of those are possible without being in the Single Market along with the CU.

[Nocturnal Submission]

Guy is on the warpath...https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/s...123739136?s=19

If there's a second referendum, the words of Guy Maurice Marie Louise Verhofstadt should feature in every leaflet the Leave campaign produces.

[johnr]

Public transport isn't possible without being in the single market?

[Tubby Isaacs]

None of those are possible without being in the Single Market along with the CU.

They weren't possible "with nobody on less than £80,000 paying more tax" anyway. And since then, Labour's acquiesced in a very regressive tax cut because it isn't "falling into Philip Hammond's trap".

[Nefertiti2]

Why don't you set up the "Sniping From The Sidelines" Party? You didn't even vote in the referendum.