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    And in any case, shouldn't these papers have been ready when we gave notification? We're 5 months in now. About to waste another 6 weeks with German elections too.

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      And in any case, shouldn't these papers have been ready when we gave notification?
      Along with hundreds of other things, yes.

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        Are they even pretending they've got aces up their sleeves now?

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          They're struggling to pretend they even have sleeves.

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            David Davis might as well show up in a string vest.

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              Some of us are having a late lunch here, Tubby.

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                Nottingham today launched its bid to become European City of Culture 2023.

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                  Having voted for Brexit.

                  In other news, a salad maker is closing down with the loss of 260 jobs, hammered by the exchange rate. The place? Heavily Brexit Tonbridge, Kent. It must have looked at left behind working class people elsewhere and thought "We want more of them"

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                    Barnier apparently going to offer Ireland money to mitigate Brexit.

                    But but but the EU is bankrupt without our £9bn. Or something.

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                      The Telegraph, probably inadvertently, sums up Britain's historic attitude towards Ireland.

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                        Protecting little, helpless Ireland by fucking it over.

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                          The last thing they heard about Ireland was the crash, most of these fucks. We're back in the middle of a bubble property boom that will just get boomier around Dublin thanks to Brexit allowing the rentiers and homeowners to hold out for even more cash for their gaff, even in areas no self-respecting stockbroker would haunt.

                          Though the once shady likes of Portobello, Stoneybatter and even the Liberties are already becoming creatives/pseudo-50's Bakelite fetishists/software developers/Warm Arts Hosannah Bell/24-carat cunt enclaves. You knew where you were with junkies and the hard living hard done by. Half these new alternative disrupters and Improvers are Future Fine Gael Randroids.

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                            Sounds like Amsterdam.

                            Things have become so weird in Amsterdam that D66* are now the largest party there. The place voted Labour for the entire history of the universe.

                            *Market friendly freemarketeers with socially liberal consience. In other words, they fuck up the health care system with market reforms while simultaneously introducing euthanasia.
                            Last edited by anton pulisov; 18-08-2017, 15:01.

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                              The Tories under Cameron went for that. It wasn't all that convincing, but May's chucked it away good and proper. She won 21 out of 73 seats in London (and could have easily been fewer), and did appallingly in cities everywhere.

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                                This goon is the Brexit Minister.

                                Steve Baker MP‏Verified account
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                                Congratulations @iealondon on great coverage for your trade report
                                The report might not be seriously intended except as part of their "fewer regulations" domestic brand.

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                                  Originally posted by antoine polus View Post
                                  Sounds like Amsterdam.

                                  Things have become so weird in Amsterdam that D66* are now the largest party there. The place voted Labour for the entire history of the universe.

                                  *Market friendly freemarketeers with socially liberal consience. In other words, they fuck up the health care system with market reforms while simultaneously introducing euthanasia.
                                  'Credit' for that must go to the Dutch Labour party on the national level, who have epically soiled the bed. The sheets look like Jackson Pollock painted them.

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                                    Just like Irish Labour and their equally keen reading of what going into coalition with Thatcherite scum/Big Fermers will result in (though I guess the Dutch useless Soc Dems got more council housing built more than the square root of fuck all of either the 92-97 or 2011 vintage of useless Labour proppers up of various shades of shite Irish centre right bollocks).
                                    Last edited by Lang Spoon; 18-08-2017, 20:49.

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                                      Not at all, the current Dutch Labour party is the party of Jeroen Dijsselbloem.

                                      They were in a government that privatised a load of social housing stock. They also increased rents w existing social housing in order to drive people into the house purchase market in order to keep the rentiers happy.

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                                        The French Socialists have also left the hotel duvet covered in brown stains and have all but disappeared.

                                        It sort of puts Corbin's performance in a country that obviously has 51%of irredeemible fuckwits into perspective, and maybe indicates that in current times, if you want to get the old socialist vote you have to be a bit, um, socialist.

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                                          Or need to promise a load of unaffordable, not very well targeted stuff. Then again the other lot do it much much more. And I didn't have a better idea, that's for sure.

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                                            This is the current level of UK Brexit policy. An embargo on announcement that there'll be some "positioning papers" published soon.

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                                              "Steps up pressure". In the sense that the West Indies stepped up pressure on Alistair Cook, except more so. Theresa May is taking out slip and gully, and moving the wicket keeper back on to the boundary.

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                                                Fuck sake man, might as well be in foreign.

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                                                  That dreadful document was flagged up by David Allen Green, who is one of the leading lights documenting the whole farrago, along with Jolyon Maugham. Less clear is what they and a lot of others who are backing them think should be done now with regard to leaving.

                                                  I've seen a lot of 'we shouldn't have voted out' alongside ongoing reasons why - correct, but pointless. But I've also seen a fair bit of 'don't do it (leave)'; I think I'm right in saying that A50 is irrevocable - barring some impossible about turn by the UK government, and subsequent agreement by 27 countries, all in around 18 months. Today there's a very well thought through piece by Vernon Bogdanor, until he calls for a 2nd referendum (much like Owen Smith did), though without any explanation as to how that possibility could be included in the current negotiations, how any government department, business or anybody else could prepare for such a possibility, nor why the 27 would allow for such uncertainty.

                                                  Best to leave, on the best terms we can, under a Labour government. Then immediately apply to rejoin - with no option of a referendum to 'the great British public' - under whatever deal we can get at that point. What a waste of time and money.

                                                  In my first attempt at using the Board's new software, here goes with Viz's take on the current EU debate, spot on as usual.

                                                  Bollocks, can't work out how to do it on my tablet. What a letdown.

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                                                    Just seen that it says 'You may not post attachments' in my permissions. So you'll have to wait a bit for the Viz take.

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