The Brexit Thread

[DCI Harry Batt]

Tories circulating motion of no confidence in the Speaker, who was elected by Parliament in 2017.

Won't they just lose that by 11 votes?

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1083046630407000069

[DCI Harry Batt]

Asking for an extension might be inevitable. I'm not sure that you can assume the exact same level of inevitability for its being agreed by the EU27.

[Lang Spoon]

I think they’ll want ye gone before the Euro elections. Or permanently revoking article 50. Might get a month’s extension.

[DCI Harry Batt]

https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1083074238775480326

[Lang Spoon]

Swire's amendment is nonsense

[DCI Harry Batt]

I'm just putting this out there, for 2019 that is, I'm going full-on po-faced on slurs relating to mental illness and intellectual capacity.

[Lang Spoon]

Sorry I'll re edit

[DCI Harry Batt]

HUZZAH!

[Nefertiti2]

Looks interesting

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1083051630273142784


I think Starmer will know exactly what the EU are prepared to agree to.

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1083053244841185281

[Diable Rouge]

Looks interesting

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1083051630273142784


I think Starmer will know exactly what the EU are prepared to agree to.

Turkeys won't vote for Christmas.

[Nefertiti2]

But Which version of Christmas are these Turkeys not going to vote for - The No deal Brexit which they have no confidence in, or No Confidence in the Government prepared to bring in No deal Brexit?

[Diable Rouge]

If they vote for a GE, they'll be automatically deselected - a cross-party agreement to extend/revoke Article 50 until an alternative deal can be signed off on is another matter, however.

[ursus arctos]

[Satchmo Distel]

I'm confused as to how the EU could have a backstop without the UK's compliance. If the UK decides post-2020 to impose import and passport controls at the NI/ROI border (unilaterally breaking its withdrawal agreement), how does the EU having a unilateral backstop prevent that?

[Lang Spoon]

Economic war?

[San Bernardhinault]

Yeah. If the UK breaks the backstop, then all the consequent negotiations collapse and the UK goes into default Superhard Brexit. Presumably with the addition of a really pissed off EU that deliberately scuppers the UK's trade deals with other blocs.

[Lang Spoon]

Plus no one would trust the UK at all to keep their side in trade deals after witnessing their behaviour toward the EU. Anyone signing owt with (hopefully r)UK would screw them even more than they would otherwise to cover the threat of perfidy.

[Lang Spoon]

It'll be worth it though, being Properly Free and all.

[Satchmo Distel]

So May is lying to Parliament by claiming the EU would be willing to negotiate on the backstop in any way?

[Lang Spoon]

Yep. Unless the EU is lying to Ireland, the substance is not up for negotiation.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Look at these No Deal academic goons.

https://amp.theguardian.com/educatio...no-deal-brexit

"British universities are the strongest and most attractive in Europe. With a clean sovereign Brexit, British universities get the best of both worlds. They escape the European commission’s shackles imposed through the withdrawal agreement and, like other successful third-party countries (Israel, Norway and Switzerland, for example), can participate in EU programmes like Horizon 2020 at will"

Switzerland was excluded from Horizon 2020 after its referendum against freedom of movement.

[Lang Spoon]

Is Mathew Goodwin involved? He's some machine.

[Ginger Yellow]

And Norway is not a third country