The Brexit Thread

[Snake Plissken]

Sturgeon calling on Corbyn to move a vote of no confidence. She has 30 MPs to do that for her. Cable calling on Corbyn to move a vote of no confidence. He can do it himself.

Fucks sake. Quit playing games. No point doing it if the DUP aren’t in.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Apologies if someone else has put this up already. I am the world's worst skim reader.

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1072156292159021062

[Tubby Isaacs]

Sturgeon calling on Corbyn to move a vote of no confidence. She has 30 MPs to do that for her. Cable calling on Corbyn to move a vote of no confidence. He can do it himself.

Fucks sake. Quit playing games. No point doing it if the DUP aren’t in.

From last week.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-keir-starmer

“I think the prime minister, as we all know, is going to struggle between now and that vote,” Starmer told Sky’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday show, saying that if she were to lose, May would have to outline her next move to the Commons.

“We need to see what that is. But it seems to me that if the prime minister has lost a vote of that sort of significance, then there has to be a question of confidence in her government,” he said. “I think it’s inevitable that we will seek to move that.

[Diable Rouge]

Pound down a bit more. 1.10 Euro. Come on, I'm sure the Tories can get it to this disastrous 1.09 (a "Corbyn") that The Telegraph was worried about.

At least the tills will be ringing in Newry and Derry.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Tory commitment to border areas.

How quickly can Crossmaglen build a hypermarket?

[Diable Rouge]

http://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1072129699449589760

[Tubby Isaacs]

Justine Greening, the Conservative former cabinet minister and pro-European, asks May about the House of Commons statement that the vote could be delayed until 28 March. (See 4.35pm.)

May says she does not think the scenario described by Greening is correct.

But she won’t say when the vote will take place.

(Greening was just quoting what Commons officials are saying.)

28 March would take heroic timewasting. It's a shame Brian Close is no longer with us. Maybe May meant him and not Geoff Boycott.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Shame they can't do this with the EU, and make awkward moments disappear.

Downing Street has confirmed that the government will reject John Bercow’s call for a proper vote on delaying tomorrow’s vote. (See 3.59pm.) As the Press Association reports, at a briefing he prime minister’s official spokesman explained the procedure by which the Brexit vote will be deferred. When the Commons clerk reads out the orders of the day on Monday evening, after the final statement, the government whip will call out “tomorrow”. This puts off the two remaining days of debate and any votes until a date yet to be fixed. There is no requirement for vote on this procedure, said the spokesman.

[Ginger Yellow]

Brexit means Brexit. Simples.

[Ginger Yellow]

We are also looking closely at new ways of empowering the House of Commons to ensure that any provision for a backstop has democratic legitimacy and to enable the House to place its own obligations on the government to ensure that the backstop cannot be in place indefinitely.

Aaargh. What part of "unless and until" is so fucking hard to understand?

[Nefertiti2]

But we've not stopped at the station of 11th December

[Tubby Isaacs]

Pound up a bit more on the back of May not answering any questions properly. Almost where it was when she started speaking.

[Nefertiti2]

Profit-taking for tomorrow

[Nefertiti2]

the sensibles are calling for Corbyn to call for a vote of no confidence, having worked out he doesn't have the votes.

https://twitter.com/IanMurrayMP/status/1072180984639053826

[Lang Spoon]

So if it won’t call a vote of confidence how does Labour get to an election?

[Nefertiti2]

It calls a vote of confidence when there's a chance of winning. Either the Tory remainers or the DUP have to vote against the government. (or i suppose the European Research Group.)

[WOM]

Hi. Big dumb guy here with a question: are old-fashioned border checkpoints currently being built all over the UK? Like at Dover and Folkstone and wherever else you'd check people coming and going? Or is that sort of just not happening pending this whole thing possibly being abandoned...or something else?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Were the DUP on board last week when Starmer was talking about that, then?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Hi. Big dumb guy here with a question: are old-fashioned border checkpoints currently being built all over the UK? Like at Dover and Folkstone and wherever else you'd check people coming and going? Or is that sort of just not happening pending this whole thing possibly being abandoned...or something else?

In a word, no, we're not really preparing as you'd expect. This is what we're doing.

Kent council staff 'to work from home for six months' if there is a no deal Brexit

[Tubby Isaacs]

Is she always this good? If so, they'd be well advised to swap her for Cable pronto.

https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1072159254000402433

[Nefertiti2]

Were the DUP on board last week when Starmer was talking about that, then?

they were playing footsie, but that was before :"the meaningful vote" in which the government would have been defeated.

https://twitter.com/labourlewis/status/1072195959931723776

[Tubby Isaacs]

I think the Tories would have rallied round her whatever.

I don't know if somebody other than Corbyn can schedule a vote of no confidence. Thatcher scheduled the one that brought down Callaghan personally. I can see why the Leader of the Opposition would do exactly as you say. But if somebody else can force it, it might reinforce the message of who the government are and on whose head all this falls.

[Nefertiti2]

anyone can schedule a vote of no confidence

[Tubby Isaacs]

OK. Well, as Snakey said, one of the other leaders can do it, or Murray himself. Though I think Murray does have a bit of plan there with the demand for the referendum following the defeated vote.

[Tubby Isaacs]

May's lost if even if she vanishes away the backstop.

https://twitter.com/SteveBakerHW/status/1072201427458646017