The Brexit Thread

[Tubby Isaacs]

Having looked her up, I quickly see something about how the left hasn't realized Brexit can be harnessed for the good.

Good like factories in famously affluent Llanelli and Plymouth closing because of Brexit.

[SouthdownRebel]

Have you taken the time to read that article?

[Tubby Isaacs]

I hadn't but I have now. I agree with most of it. But she seemed to be talking up the working class element in Corbyn team. And the person whose working class origins are best known, Angela Rayner, is generally well received. So I didn't get that point.

But I'm afraid the other thing (can't do links, on a phone) puts me off her a lot. I'd rather my MP were one of those run of the mill NE Labour MPs who get Brexit and stuck their necks out on it, despite Brexit constituencies.

[Diable Rouge]

Boris Johnson is to address the DUP conference this weekend.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Boris Johnson is to address the DUP conference this weekend.

I assume that's satirical humour.

[Lobachevsky]

perfect

[Lang Spoon]

Boris Johnson is to address the DUP conference this weekend.

He should do an Enoch and run for the cunts.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

He should do an Enoch and run for the cunts.

Bloody hell it would be like Napoleon returning from Elba. In his mind if no-one else's.

[Diable Rouge]

I assume that's satirical humour.

No, but seems Hammond is doing likewise:

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-nort...mpression=true

[Tubby Isaacs]

Enoch was UUP.

An even worse Tory MP, Andrew Hunter, actually defected to the DUP.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Have you taken the time to read that article?

Well I just have

It's not good. Her instincts are good. Her grasp of the likely scale of the destruction caused by Brexit is bad.

[Tubby Isaacs]

And that isn't harnessing anything. That's changing policy which you could do anyway, except this time uphill.

[Lang Spoon]

It’s better than the RISE Indyleft wankers in Scotland that see Britain in the EU as a worse option (cos, neoliberalism) than Britain (even with no deal!) or Scotland outwith the EU for Social Justice, but it’s still depressingly insular in terms of ignoring how the fuck to pay for Socialism in One Country when not in the SM.

[Lang Spoon]

A Labour govt taking over a brexited Britain suddenly forced to scale back its (modest by European Social Democrat, even Christian Democrat norms) plans as the money drained out would probably be blamed for Betrayal and be out in one term.

[Nefertiti2]

Better to be in power than to let these cunts rule us a minute longer.

https://twitter.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1064966408180826120

[Lang Spoon]

They’ll be in office but not in power till 2022 most likely.

[Lang Spoon]

I hope not but fuck Clegg for falling for that fixed terms shite.

[Lang Spoon]

Is Corbyn actually going to meet Sturgeon re Westminster next steps? I would almost bet there will be no coordination of opposition strategy.

[Diable Rouge]

An ambitious trade deal looks set to be completed ... by Jersey.

[Nefertiti2]

Is Corbyn actually going to meet Sturgeon re Westminster next steps? I would almost bet there will be no coordination of opposition strategy.

Why?

[Lang Spoon]

Cos Labour have lost Scotland forever, and they might need Nat votes. Also, Sturgeons alternative to May’s Brexit might actually get EU27 approval.

[Diable Rouge]

Is Corbyn actually going to meet Sturgeon re Westminster next steps? I would almost bet there will be no coordination of opposition strategy.

It appears the EFTA/EEA route is being considered permanently, but of course, that still requires customs agreements for the Border.

[Lang Spoon]

At this point shouldn’t the opposition parties be trying a Popular Front against madness Tory or Flint/Field/hooey types? If no second ref then a proper soft Brexit attempt.

[Pérou Flaquettes]

Great example of industry jargon last night on Channel 4 News (7-8 pm), May at the CBI conference with her big speech and her grand plans to stop those awfully-entitled EU migrants "from jumping the queue".

A C4 journalist interviewed a CEO exec about EU staff retention and he replied: "[…] some of our EU staff have sought some certainties for themselves." (it’s at 10’26 if you can find the programme).

In plain English: those EU staff have fucked off abroad.

[Nefertiti2]

the trouble is that the electoral system demands both a popular front and the readiness to work together and also rewards the quick knife in the back. when 5000 votes either way between SNP and Labour can change several seats in parliament.