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    Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
    there's a thread about thatcuntjohnson isn;t there? I couldn;t find it. Anyway, all this stuff belongs there. Like this piece. https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/o...eign-secretary
    Skim-reading that, I presumed "Western Balkans" was a comment on the current state of the UK.

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      Brilliantly summed up by Fintan O'Toole https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/f...F3ze0.facebook

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        What do we want - We don't know!

        https://twitter.com/britainelects/st...84997556375552

        https://twitter.com/britainelects/st...14744990642176

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          Good piece on Johnson

          Two years ago, the side effect of Mr. Johnson’s ambitious maneuvering was to split the country and risk the prosperity and security of all Britons for decades. Now, just as a fragile basis for negotiation emerges, his selfish drive for vindication, attention and admiration threatens that, too.
          https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/o...mid=tw-nytimes

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            Britain is a perfectly healthy grown-up country latest:
            https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status...47986545471489
            https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1016947986545471489

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              And

              https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/statu...65497936637952
              https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1016965497936637952

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                I genuinely, genuinely hate this country.

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                  It's going to be fucking hilarious when, in 2030, Britain votes to join the euro.

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                    Votes? Begs.

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                      IEA and Wetherspoons both bigging up the joys of unilaterally zeroing tariffs today, which is rather suspicious timing. I guess it's an independent trade policy, but I'm not sure to what end.

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                        Originally posted by Snake Plissken View Post
                        Votes? Begs.
                        Either/or, the point is that the largely middle-aged and elderly support base for Brexit is going to drive the final nails into the coffin of British exceptionalism. Already, seemingly as soon as people are too young to have remembered the Falklands War, they're rabidly pro-European. And shit, if they aren't old farts who remember the British Empire in its pomp, they're at least cognizant of Europe.

                        https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1015944514765238272

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                          Originally posted by Toby Gymshorts View Post
                          I genuinely, genuinely hate this country.
                          Consider the Carlin Way:

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                            The ERG table amendments to the Trade Bill, with a UK-wide CU with the EU the possible ironic effect of this one:

                            https://twitter.com/zachjourno/statu...57552453029889

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                              Bwahaha. JRM complaining that the Chequers policy breaks "the explicit promise that Brexit means Brexit".

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                                This is the Government acting to protect against an event it is actively working to achieve.

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                                  As they say in Norn Iron, "keep her lit":

                                  https://www.theguardian.com/politics...no-brexit-deal

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                                    If it hasn't been asked already, will May have to call an election?

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                                      Only in the explicit circumstance of her losing a MONC in the Commons.

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                                        Originally posted by Lucy Waterman View Post
                                        Kuenssberg now on saying this is chaos, has further shredded Number Ten's authority and predicting no confidence letters to flood in today. When will she stop sticking up for May and boosting the Tories?
                                        Just wondering LW, is your occasional flagging up of these sort of tweets a response to those (of us) who claim that Kuenssberg is biased to the right? If so, I still don't resile from that; what she is describing in that tweet is very close to fact, and that is indeed her job; the reason that some of us claim that she goes beyond that is that, from the very day Corbyn was elected (the actual item on the BBC News), her reporting on him/Labour has been grossly ill-informed, at times bordering on an obvious deep dislike, and mischaracterising, of the left - which is not her job. Have a look at her local election night questioning of McDonnell, and the bile with which she spat out questions to him as an example.

                                        Also, I can't imagine that she would give this sort of access to an organisation that was on the opposite side to Vote Leave. In addition, she often quote-tweets right-wing borderline fake news site Guido Fawkes, but to my knowledge she's never quote-tweeted left-wing borderline fake news sites such as Sqwawkbox or The Canary. (Though of course with the latter, she's just the same as the Guardian, loads of MPs etc - it's just that in her case she's paid to be impartial.)

                                        Her overall bias to the right is clear, and consistent. The fact that she also describes what's going on with the Tories is immaterial.

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                                          How likely is that DR? The Tories would rally behind her to avoid a Corbyn premiership. Would the DUP stick with her? Is she more likely to get a challenge from within the party?

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                                            I think it might depend on how strong the rebellious Tories perceived the likelihood of a Corbyn led Labour government being the result of the government falling. If they thought that they could win an election after that, then they might go for it.

                                            It's also possible that the more crafty of them might wait until the deal is nearly signed, with pretty much no room for manoeuvre and then act to bring down May, reasoning that Corbyn would then own whatever mess the country would get into as a result. Given that there is a sizeable proportion of MPs (on both sides of the house) who appear to think that this is all about party politics and their own power/status and as a result are not in the least bit concerned in the effects of this on actual people, this seems possible too.

                                            There do appear to be one or two Tories who actually have principles and may vote against something they deeply believe is wrong and against the interests of the country, but the number of these seems to be in the low single digits

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                                              Thanks ad hoc. And the others. Still catching up with all the complexities of this. Not that easy to follow from here. In North Carolina they think Brexit is a candy bar.

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                                                As part of this, the existing autonomous frameworks for equivalence would need to be expanded, to reflect the fact that equivalence as it exists today is not sufficient in scope for the breadth of the interconnectedness of UK-EU financial services provision. A new arrangement would need to encompass a broader range of cross-border activities that reflect global financial business models and the high degree of economic integration. The UK recognises, however, that this arrangement cannot replicate the EU’s passporting regime.
                                                66. As the UK and the EU start from a position of identical rules and entwined supervisory frameworks, the UK proposes that there should be reciprocal recognition of equivalence under all existing third country regimes, taking effect at the end of the implementation period. This reflects the reality that all relevant criteria, including continued supervisory cooperation, can readily be satisfied by both the UK and the EU. It would also provide initial confidence in the system to firms and markets.
                                                Not clear to me whether this means all rules that involve third countries now, or only those within the scope of an expanded (to an unspecified degree) equivalence regime at the point of Brexit.

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                                                  You poor sods

                                                  https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1017514591763533831?s=21

                                                  https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1017515584798580736?s=21

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