The Brexit Thread

[Lang Spoon]

Cunts.

[Lang Spoon]

Fuck me, look at this old clip of Tony Benn in 1975. "We're the best customer, they need to sell us their cars and butter", so we'll get the deal that suits us best.

Pure David Davis.

https://twitter.com/PropertySpot/status/919572123202588672

The cult of Benn is one of the least attractive aspects about much of the Labour left. He wasn’t that left before he was marginalized in Govt, and he was massively full of shite on so many things. It’s like the Orwell Centrist Cult but for Lexiters and the like.

[Nefertiti2]

Foxy is staying put.

He probably didnt noticd that May had her fingers crossed.

[Lang Spoon]

At least Scotland’s sainted shibboleths of Jimmy Reid etc are more nuanced and their sainthood has more admitted tarnish than saint Tony Cuntface Benn. In so many ways, the Left JRM. He created the Oil industry deliberately to have less union interventions than in Norway, the cunt. Was also involved in suppressing the McCrone report. Fuck Benn the posh cunt and his shitey centrist son.

People died at Piper Alpha cos of his cuntiness. Burn. Ya cunt.

[Lang Spoon]

Fuck drinking less does not decrease the anger.

[Lang Spoon]

Cunts to the left of me, Cunts to the right, lets have a 21st Century Doomed but crucial GPO in Glasgow. Leave youse silly cunts to your Brexit socialism in one country shite.

[Lang Spoon]

Apols everyone, but I still stand by that shite in a way. Britain Lab or Tory has gone fucking mental. The View From Ireland is Youse are All Cunts.

[Nefertiti2]

subtitle time

[Lang Spoon]

Labour suck and have no fucking idea how the EU works, or they are lying to Brexiter voters for triangulation reasons based on pisspoor psephology. And to be all cultish, Scottish folk are expected to be bilingual in all UK memes cockney northern Geordie etc and in-jokes, about time youse woke up to properly listening to the devolved regions. Labour under Corbyn is almost as shit as the fuckin Tories at understanding the issues of the devolved “regions”. Why is fucking Corbyn and red faced, post Jolly Grapes, Gardiner fool still talking about making new trade deals or how the EU prohibits State Aid? Either they are ignorant Fucks or cynical Legit Concerns cunts who can’t accept the FoM needed now to avoid Shite Brexit.

[Lang Spoon]

I know Labour have no power. But still a Govt in waiting can’t just keep talking triangle shite to every cunt. They are legitimizing hard or no deal Brexit the dozy cunts. I’d say it’s 50/50 soft or no deal. And fucking corbs still talking more like no deal would be more acceptable.

[Lang Spoon]

Look to NI ffs. Labour still doesn’t have a credible policy on the Border. Youse only look good next to Davies.


Kiss kiss I’m going to bed.

[Lang Spoon]

The country whose wealth.... diminished. could not get a carrier bag, for love nor money, ovah ovah ovah!

[tuckwat]

If Leave cheated hasn't the whole thing got to be called off.

[Flynnie]

I would say one of the most repulsive things the Lexiters do is refuse to take any responsibility for any of the bad things in the EU being instigated by the UK. The UK has always been the financial sector's toady in the commission. Everything is done by someone else, usually Merkel who they hate for running a government that is left of anything the UK has had for 40 years, when the UK almost never loses (or did before Brexit) a parliamentary or commission vote. The realization that a left UK government would likely shift the direction of the EU to the left doesn't dawn on them.

I think the other thing plays into LS's rant above, which is that all sections of Labour have always fetishised control over everything else. Giving up power is always done grudgingly. Devolution and the European Union mean not being the sole authority to make decisions, and they don't like that.

[Moonlight Shadow]

Owen Jones ranting at Merkel is particularly tedious; the day a Corbyn PM does what she did with the millions Syrian refugees as opposed to pander to their xenophobic marginal seats loon by repudiating FoM, will be the day...

[Tubby Isaacs]

I would say one of the most repulsive things the Lexiters do is refuse to take any responsibility for any of the bad things in the EU being instigated by the UK. The UK has always been the financial sector's toady in the commission. Everything is done by someone else, usually Merkel who they hate for running a government that is left of anything the UK has had for 40 years, when the UK almost never loses (or did before Brexit) a parliamentary or commission vote. The realization that a left UK government would likely shift the direction of the EU to the left doesn't dawn on them.

I think the other thing plays into LS's rant above, which is that all sections of Labour have always fetishised control over everything else. Giving up power is always done grudgingly. Devolution and the European Union mean not being the sole authority to make decisions, and they don't like that.

In fairness, there aren't many genuine Lexiters and they're generally keeping quiet. Austin Mitchell is the former MP for Great Grimsby, so no great eminence. And like Gove, he used to be a journalist.

[Kevin S]

Here's Corbyn dismissing a Dutch interviewer who asks him what he's doing for the 48%, as though she's a bit of dirt. What an arsehole. (Beginning and end of clip.)

https://twitter.com/vanessalamsvelt/...716412416?s=21

https://twitter.com/vanessalamsvelt/status/1014957849716412416?s=21

[Tubby Isaacs]

What a strange performance. He had a reasonable answer/soundbite there that "we're representing everyone". No need for the tetchiness at all.

[Diable Rouge]

While the faux Tory war continues, Tony Connelly tweets Barnier's press conference (read from this tweet upwards):

https://mobile.twitter.com/tconnelly...85717352333312

[Tubby Isaacs]

Owen Jones ranting at Merkel is particularly tedious; the day a Corbyn PM does what she did with the millions Syrian refugees as opposed to pander to their xenophobic marginal seats loon by repudiating FoM, will be the day...

Jones was saying that the headline didn't reflect the article. Can't be bothered to read him anyway.

Reminds me a bit about the Eurozone crisis. It's one thing to criticize austerity imposed on Greece and call for write off, but British politicians weren't exactly beating down a door to Athens to lend billions of Euros. And if you haven't paid into the bailout, it might not go down all that well for others if you tell them to write off a load of what they lent.

[Nefertiti2]

This is why Corbyn is talking about buses

https://twitter.com/nicola_slawson/status/1015217327133069313


and of course this from Stephen Bush

Question: would Jeremy Corbyn now be “20 points ahead” in the polls if he came out against Brexit?

Answer: no.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Ask them about Brexit in more concrete terms. Lots of manufacturing not a million miles from Handsworth. What do the locals think about <insert company> suddenly finding exporting to its biggest market much more complicated? I'd guess some wouldn't be too pleased about that.

We're all a Tory awayday from that being confirmed as government policy. I don't think it will be but it's a real possibility. What does Labour do if May belatedly goes sensible? That apathy about Brexit in the abstract is good news for May. She'll borrow the bus policy if she needs to- Osborne already started a shift to better regulation in the city regions.

[Nefertiti2]

She's a journalist. I know people should be concerned about Brexi, but the fact is that they largely aren't It wasn't Brexit that meant that Birmingham lost its motor industry it was banks Blair and criminals who got away with it

[Tubby Isaacs]

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Our new @IPPR report finds shares of goods exports going to the EU vary massively across UK - highest in Flintshire and Wrexham, Telford and Wrekin, and Cheshire West and Chester

Cheshire West and Chester in 2011 had 313,000 UK born people. Next biggest demographic was Polish with 2,100. 50.4% Leave vote.

Any questions, I'm sure these four local Kippers giving it large on the night will be happy to help.

[Tubby Isaacs]

She's a journalist. I know people should be concerned about Brexi, but the fact is that they largely aren't It wasn't Brexit that meant that Birmingham lost its motor industry it was banks Blair and criminals who got away with it

I didn't mention the motor industry. Brexit's shit for industry generally.

Labour's better, no doubt about that, but one thing these vox pops suggest to me is that not many people are picking up this "Starmer makes cunning shift" stuff. As I said, I think they had to get to the Single Market/Customs Union as quickly as politically possible and challenge May either to put millions out of work or shift and have Labour say "Told you so" at them.