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    Yes, my worry is that he just finds ways to get other people to pay his fines. Is there not a jail penalty for perpetual contempt?

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      There is such a potential, but it does not apply automatically

      There appears to be a sense that the judge will lift the contempt order when Trump's strip mall lawyer (yes, really) demonstrates a bit more effort at locating the documents in question.

      https://www.thedailybeast.com/alina-...l-team-loathes

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        The judge has said he will lift the contempt order if Trump pays USD 110K in accrued fines and the organization presents him with a serious and detailed plan to search for the evidence

        In other news,
        https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1525923313981300738?t=q0a65Hgc7N4Ww--gKt6eAQ&s=19

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          I’m concerned about the depth and breadth of your twitter research. How can you maintain sanity seeing all of that all the time?

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            It is a very fair question.

            At least for now, I find it easier to be aware of as much as possible.

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              I find the opposite.

              And Twitter appears to be designed to create maximum outrage. Maximum alienation.

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                My experience is very different, but I would never consider that to be universal in any way.

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                  I mostly find it healthier - for my brain - to know than to not know. But clearly for many people it’s much healthier to not be inundated with all the terrible details.

                  What I don’t have the patience for is sorting through all the chaff as Ursus does - he seems to be a useful filter to get the important stuff to us.

                  Generally while I enjoy knowing, I find it impossible to read much stuff from in what you might call the “liberal bubble” which is full of a combination of wishful thinking (Trump is about to be put in prison for life) and (hopefully) exaggerated agonising (this particular move in congress is a sign that the Republic is on the verge of collapse: eventually one of them might be right, but there’s too much crying wolf). I do almost always find that what our sensible editor Ursus selects as valuable is actually valuable.

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                    That is a very much what I try to do and I'm pleased to hear that it tends to work for at least some posters.

                    And yes, I gave up on "Resistance" Twitter during Mensch's 15 minutes of fame. A lot of those people are broken and some of them are actively grifting.
                    Last edited by ursus arctos; 16-05-2022, 00:42.

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                      Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
                      I mostly find it healthier - for my brain - to know than to not know. But clearly for many people it’s much healthier to not be inundated with all the terrible details.

                      What I don’t have the patience for is sorting through all the chaff as Ursus does - he seems to be a useful filter to get the important stuff to us.

                      Generally while I enjoy knowing, I find it impossible to read much stuff from in what you might call the “liberal bubble” which is full of a combination of wishful thinking (Trump is about to be put in prison for life) and (hopefully) exaggerated agonising (this particular move in congress is a sign that the Republic is on the verge of collapse: eventually one of them might be right, but there’s too much crying wolf). I do almost always find that what our sensible editor Ursus selects as valuable is actually valuable.
                      Yes. All that.

                      Except, I increasingly am questioning the value of knowing all about things I can’t actually do anything about.

                      I don’t think our brains have evolved fast enough to keep up with our information technology. Or maybe just I haven’t. I was born in the wrong era, I guess.

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                        Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                        That is a very much what I try to do and I'm pleased to hear that it tends to work for at least some posters.

                        And yes, I gave up on "Resistance" Twitter during Mensch's 15 minutes of fame. A lot of those people are broken and some of them are actively grufting.
                        Is that supposed to be “grifting?”

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                          Yes, sorry

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                            Ok. I wasn’t sure if grufting was something else.

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                              It's when Phoebe the Dog tries to con me out of another treat.

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                                https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1527689707135680513?s=21&t=im5wsOiBQ-LZkQohja9Hsg

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                                  Presumably No. 3 is a witness statement from Trump saying "I ate it".

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                                    Originally posted by Ginger Yellow View Post
                                    Presumably No. 3 is a witness statement from Trump saying "I ate it".
                                    Or his pup

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                                      He is notoriously wary of submitting anything in writing under oath

                                      And was also the first President in over a century to not have at least one pet in the White House

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                                        https://twitter.com/hshaban/status/1528358122905128960?s=21&t=fWedERNKA9pyBrbB3Gcytg

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                                          That part is terrifying. Exactly the Super PAC model.

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                                            I’m ready to give up.

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                                              Wohl and friend are at it again

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                                                The Chin did this much better by wearing his bathrobe while wandering around the Village muttering to himself

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                                                  https://twitter.com/EricLiptonNYT/status/1529948432974204930?t=WZzlsc9PqsuNQEF0WSzNOg&s=19

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                                                    https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1530694872759345152?s=21&t=1kg6s-6wu6s57to2CbDQEg

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